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Not quite a car, not quite a motorcycle: a vehicle built for one

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Re: Not quite a car, not quite a motorcycle: a vehicle built for one

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> 805 hp claimed. !

It's trivial to put a high-power electric motor into a car. It's very difficult to supply that motor with enough juice to actually sustain that kind of power output for a reasonable period of time. For reference, 800HP is 600kW.

Not that trivial. The Tesla P100D can break 600kw now, but has only been able to do it in the last month or so.

Re: Not quite a car, not quite a motorcycle: a vehicle built for one

#192

The problem with tricycles is that they are less stable than both motorcycles and cars. Unlike motorcycles, tricycles can't bank on turns, or are very limited in that.

The Yamaha Niken[0], which arrived last year, would disagree. [0] https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport-touring/models/niken

It looks the rider has to work rather hard to make the bike lean. This is an unsolved problem with "leaning" tricycles. They are all top heavy, and physically exerting on hands during turns.

One way some manufacturers approached this was putting powerful hydraulics for steering, but that made the mass of a bike even higher, thus negating the benefit by far.

A good bike must have low centre of mass, and easy to turn.

Re: Not quite a car, not quite a motorcycle: a vehicle built for one

#193
post #79

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My anecdata in ~ 50,000km riding time on a motorcycle: a frontal crash I could do nothing about (oncoming car made a left turn, didn't see me). Luckily it happened in a city and I was in full leather tracksuit. I got through with a few bruises and ruptured spleen (which thankfully healed on it's own and I now have two of them).

I'm lucky I've not had any vehicular crashes on my motorbike. Though I've been cleaned up by a car on my (analogue) bicycle. Came away relatively unscathed. Am I reading your comment right? Your spleen ruptured, healed it's self, now you have two of them?

Yes, at least that's what I've been told by ultrasound techs on two separate occasions (one tech even told she has seen cases where repeated damage has been done to one of the spleens, the damaged one was taken out and the other one has taken over the primary function).

Apparently this is the current medical consensus in my country- if the spleen is ruptured but not causing massive internal bleeding, the course of action is to monitor patient to see if it heals on it's own. In my case the ruptured part formed scar tissues around it, separating itself from the original spleen.

Re: Not quite a car, not quite a motorcycle: a vehicle built for one

#194

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If you can't lean into corners, can't split lanes, can't exceed 80mph, can't do wheelies, can't make it fall over, and can't go over the handlebars in a crash, I strongly suspect this will have better safety statistics than a motorcycle.

This is the comment of someone that knows very little about motorcycles. Half the things you mention are not negatives, but positives.

Actually I've got 8 years of riding experience.

Let's be honest, nobody really believes doing wheelies, lane-splitting or being able to go at 130mph actually make us safer. That's just what we tell our moms when they're worried about us, and we know they won't be reassured by the truth - which is that we know what we're doing is dangerous but we're going to keep doing it anyway because it's fun.

Re: Not quite a car, not quite a motorcycle: a vehicle built for one

#195
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I've ridden a motorcycle for years, seen countless riders, and yet never once have I seen a single person ride down the highway at 300mph with the front wheel at 12 o'clock like (apparently) everyone else in the world. People really seem to hate motorcyclists because "oh I saw one time on Facebook in some video where a guy wheelied his bike" blah blah blah. All those events are, are anecdotes. Bikes a) take up less s…

My post was pure sarcasm

Damn. Totally missed that, and in hindsight it's now obvious. Don't I feel like a dope :(

Re: Not quite a car, not quite a motorcycle: a vehicle built for one

#197
post #195

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My post was pure sarcasm

Damn. Totally missed that, and in hindsight it's now obvious. Don't I feel like a dope :(

Kinda my fault, sarcasm is very hard to transmit over the text.

Re: Not quite a car, not quite a motorcycle: a vehicle built for one

#198

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This is the comment of someone that knows very little about motorcycles. Half the things you mention are not negatives, but positives.

Actually I've got 8 years of riding experience. Let's be honest, nobody really believes doing wheelies, lane-splitting or being able to go at 130mph actually make us safer. That's just what we tell our moms when they're worried about us, and we know they won't be reassured by the truth - which is that we know what we're doing is dangerous but we're going to keep doing it anyway because it's fun.

There's also a huge difference between recklessly doing all of these things, and responsibly doing these things. Not necessarily 130mph wheelies, but lane-splitting is perfectly safe as well as practical, when done at a normal speed and practicing good distancing. It's far more dangerous to be sandwiched between two idiots staring at their phones in traffic.

Most if not all of the inherent danger of motorcycles is due to the existence of cars, driven by distracted people. You can mitigate just about all risk of riding a motorcycle. When I want to be an idiot on two wheels, I'll go mountain biking, or downhilling, or ride my dirt bike. On the street I keep my ass as safe as possible.

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