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Re: Show HN: Passwords Fountain – password manager interface as a PWA

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone in the tech industry, which is Hacker News' target audience, knows what PWA means. And it's gaining ubiquity outside the industry as well; a search via Qwant (so not personalized) tells you that it stands for Progressive Web Application. The only other contender for the front page is Public Works Administration, which isn't remotely applicable.

TY

I really don't get why abbreviated is such a long word...

Re: Show HN: Passwords Fountain – password manager interface as a PWA

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I see a lot of claims regarding controle of data. But only 1 option (Fauna.com) as to actually store the passwords. (Or am I missing something).

This would mean I do not only need to trust your code. I also need to trust this totally 3rd party with my passwords...

Further you list it works everywhere, but are missing a cli variant (so not everywhere).

As to the trust claim in the fake exchange between the 2 people. Nobody talks like that, if they do not want to use a password manager it is always another reason than trusting the code. (Or all you would need is some audits to create that trust) It just gives the feeling (to me) this is a piece of software looking for a problem to fix.

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I see a lot of claims regarding controle of data. But only 1 option (Fauna.com) as to actually store the passwords. (Or am I missing something). This would mean I do not only need to trust your code. I also need to trust this totally 3rd party with my passwords... Further you list it works everywhere, but are missing a cli variant (so not everywhere). As to the trust claim in the fake exchange between the 2 people. N…

First of all, thanks for valuable feedback :)

"But only 1 option (Fauna.com) as to actually store the passwords. (Or am I missing something)."

This is because I wanted to get some opinions from potential users before I'll invest more time in developing it and provide them with more options and additional tooling e.g. like CLI which I didn't even consider before (thanks again).

Even though this app looks very simple it took me a lot of time to get me to this point and release it as it is. I know that most users don't give a *t, but I did care about the code quality, no without a reason. I wanted to make it easy to tinker and personalise - you don't have to wait for me to change / add database provider or e.g. until I make it works without them.

"Nobody talks like that, if they do not want to use a password manager it is always another reason than trusting the code." I think you used "nobody" here the same way as I used "everywhere". Sometimes it's hard to evade generalisation, but I was thinking about devices with GUI.

Once more, thank you!

Re: Show HN: Passwords Fountain – password manager interface as a PWA

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> In your database ( https://fauna.com/ ) Unless this is a product marketed exclusively at Evan Weaver, CEO of fauna.com, then this is not "my database".

I completely understand your point of view, but I think that at this point it's more likely to add additional db providers / options to establish app db connection, than listing some niche app on fauna.com.

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I think a big reason why password managers tend to have native apps is so that the OS can better integrate with them. For example, iOS' `AuthenticationServices` API which can autofill username & passwords from a third party password manager. I don't think PWAs can achieve this yet. Personally I use Bitwarden, which offers both native and web client for all of my devices. In any case, still very good to see more choic…

Thanks for the comment! I know Bitwarden, I think it may be great alternative for "mainstream" password managers. It's whole ecosystem.

But, what I wanted is something much simpler in terms of regular usage, hosting "custom" instance, tinkering. Something which is highly optimised and does only one thing.

Re: Show HN: Passwords Fountain – password manager interface as a PWA

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> We don't store any vulnerable data - your passwords neither land on localStorage, sessionStorage, IndexedDB nor any server.

> In your database (https://fauna.com/) passwords are stored in encrypted version so nobody can steal them from there.

So fauna is not a server and not something running local in the browser from my reading of the above. Looking at fauna.com it seems like it absolutely runs on servers, just as a SaaS. What am I missing here?

Or do you just mean that the passwords are not stored on your servers?

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I think a big reason why password managers tend to have native apps is so that the OS can better integrate with them. For example, iOS' `AuthenticationServices` API which can autofill username & passwords from a third party password manager. I don't think PWAs can achieve this yet. Personally I use Bitwarden, which offers both native and web client for all of my devices. In any case, still very good to see more choic…

I would also say that storing your most valuable secrets in the same process that interacts with untrusted and potentially malicious content (ads, etc) might not be the best idea.
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