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Re: Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Americans’ browsing data

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Post by ABeeSea »

ejstronge wrote: post #2

Is there a senator who is filibustering this bill? It seems that there were 59 yes votes and four absences - how many nays are there, and who is obstructing this bill?

Bernie decided to just not vote even though his vote would have changed the outcome.

Re: Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Americans’ browsing data

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Post by davidw »

rootusrootus wrote: post #7

Of course! Wyden again! I'm really happy he is our senator. I wish there were more like-minded people in congress. Too bad he couldn't quite get all the necessary votes.

Makes me pretty happy to see headlines with him and generally be quite proud of what I see. If only I could say the same thing about our congressman in OR2...

Re: Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Americans’ browsing data

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Post by outside1234 »

ABeeSea wrote: post #11
ejstronge wrote: post #2

Is there a senator who is filibustering this bill? It seems that there were 59 yes votes and four absences - how many nays are there, and who is obstructing this bill?

Bernie decided to just not vote even though his vote would have changed the outcome.

You have to admit its on brand - just talk - never getting anything done or passed...

Re: Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Americans’ browsing data

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Post by AmericanChopper »

This article does an incredibly bad job of explaining the current status of this law, and what is expected to happen next. Has the existing law expired? Is it being replaced with something equally bad? Is the replacement subject to further change? Am I just bad at reading?

Re: Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Americans’ browsing data

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Post by mc32 »

ABeeSea wrote: post #11
ejstronge wrote: post #2

Is there a senator who is filibustering this bill? It seems that there were 59 yes votes and four absences - how many nays are there, and who is obstructing this bill?

Bernie decided to just not vote even though his vote would have changed the outcome.

It’s a strange vote. I mean it’s completely bipartisan. And a couple on either side and an independent abstained. Guess there was some good horse trading.

Re: Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Americans’ browsing data

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Post by mwfunk »

ejstronge wrote: post #2

Is there a senator who is filibustering this bill? It seems that there were 59 yes votes and four absences - how many nays are there, and who is obstructing this bill?

The president must be at least planning on obstructing the bill, since the only reason they'd need 60 votes would be to overcome a veto.

If we treat the absences as very wimpy nay votes, and lump the 2 independents in with the party they caucus with (both Democrat), then the party breakdown looks like this:

Democrats: 35 yea, 12 nay, so ~75% in favor. Republicans, 24 yea, 29 nay, so ~45% in favor.

The 59 yea votes consisted of 35 Democrats (King is independent but caucuses with the Democrats), and 24 Republicans. I'm much more interested in why it failed to pass, so I'll refrain from listing the yea votes for brevity.

The 4 absent senators were 2 Democrats (Sanders is independent but caucuses with the Democrats), and 2 Republicans:

Alexander (R-TN) Murray (D-WA) Sanders (I-VT) Sasse (R-NE)

The 37 nay votes were from 10 Democrat and 27 Republican senators:

Barrasso (R-WY) Blackburn (R-TN) Blunt (R-MO) Boozman (R-AR) Burr (R-NC) Capito (R-WV) Carper (D-DE) Casey (D-PA) Collins (R-ME) Cornyn (R-TX) Cotton (R-AR) Feinstein (D-CA) Fischer (R-NE) Graham (R-SC) Hassan (D-NH) Hyde-Smith (R-MS) Inhofe (R-OK) Johnson (R-WI) Jones (D-AL) Kaine (D-VA) Lankford (R-OK) Manchin (D-WV) McConnell (R-KY) Perdue (R-GA) Portman (R-OH) Roberts (R-KS) Romney (R-UT) Rubio (R-FL) Shaheen (D-NH) Shelby (R-AL) Thune (R-SD) Tillis (R-NC) Toomey (R-PA) Warner (D-VA) Whitehouse (D-RI) Wicker (R-MS) Young (R-IN)

Re: Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Americans’ browsing data

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Post by kitotik »

Once again the lack of media coverage on this is appalling.

Rand Paul has introduced an amendment that goes up for vote tomorrow that would disallow this surveillance on American citizens, which of course is not expected to pass.

McConnell is drafting language to prevent this from being used on “federal election candidates” which of course is expected to pass.

Re: Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Americans’ browsing data

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Post by fzeroracer »

ABeeSea wrote: post #11
ejstronge wrote: post #2

Is there a senator who is filibustering this bill? It seems that there were 59 yes votes and four absences - how many nays are there, and who is obstructing this bill?

Bernie decided to just not vote even though his vote would have changed the outcome.

Please don't spread falsehoods. Bernie's vote wouldn't have mattered unless he voted in favor of the bill, in which case the bill would've passed.

An absent vote is the same thing as a nay vote in the Senate. To pass this amendment it requires 60 affirmative votes, of which there were 59.

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