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Re: Redditor finds unsecured surveillance cameras seemingly placed by US government

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Post by jeffbee »

ikeyany wrote: post #30
baconomatic wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have an example of this? Would be interesting to see it.

This isn't about drones, but here is an article from last year about the DoD using surveillance balloons that use radar from 65,000 ft to generate high-res images of the ground: https://www.businessinsider.com/us-government-testing-survei...

It's so funny how you can whip up conspiracy theories just by adding superfluous adjectives. Instead of just saying "radar" you say "wireless radar device", as if prior radars used wires, and then you say it creates "high-resolution images using radio pulses", as if this did not apply to every radar ever built.

We have been using aircraft to track vehicles since the invention of aircraft. The people and their government have a legitimate interest in doing so. Nobody has a right to go about in a vehicle anonymously and privately.

https://www.modbee.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/bee-inv...

Re: Redditor finds unsecured surveillance cameras seemingly placed by US government

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Post by catalogia »

jeffbee wrote: post #32
wayoutthere wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Play around with one and you'll see quickly that these are designed for remote surveillance. Traffic / weather cameras don't have telephoto lenses, motorized 3 axis control or high-quality sensors.

You just made up every aspect of that statement. Caltrans traffic cameras are all variable telephoto cameras on pan/tilt/zoom rigs. Many weather cameras even allow random web visitors to control the PTZ for a minute or two.

From elsewhere in this discussion: "Due to its sensitive nature, the information contained on this website is restricted to law enforcement professionals and government agencies only. For access contact us at 503-932-6899 or email us at info@ipsurvconcepts.com" ... "This phone number traces to Mike Bethers, Special Agent at Oregon Department of Justice."

So cut the shit, these aren't traffic cameras.

Re: Redditor finds unsecured surveillance cameras seemingly placed by US government

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Post by akersten »

ashtonkem wrote: post #39
dsfyu404ed wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a practical matter I'm not worried about clicking a link that's been clicked tens of thousands of times today. There's enough ambiguous laws they could likely come after anyone who accesses it if they wanted but given the facts of the situation I doubt they'd be able to make anything stick and it would be a giant PR snafu.

I believe there is precedent that you’re allowed to enter any computer system until you’re specifically warned. It’s a bit like traveling through open land, you can’t get in trouble for trespassing until you’ve been warned that you’re entering private property. IANAL.

> I believe there is precedent that you’re allowed to enter any computer system until you’re specifically warned.

Didn't work that well for weev

Re: Redditor finds unsecured surveillance cameras seemingly placed by US government

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Post by elicash »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #37
elicash wrote: post #35

Anybody else afraid to click some of the links in that post until you hear about legality of accessing (and controlling!) a DEA camera that's likely part of an active investigation?

As a practical matter I'm not worried about clicking a link that's been clicked tens of thousands of times today. There's enough ambiguous laws they could likely come after anyone who accesses it if they wanted but given the facts of the situation I doubt they'd be able to make anything stick and it would be a giant PR snafu.

What about panning the camera to the right when there just may happen to be a drug deal you didn't notice happening to the left?

I'm not telling people what to do or not do. Only expressing my own fear!

Re: Redditor finds unsecured surveillance cameras seemingly placed by US government

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Post by BlueGh0st »

casefields wrote: post #4

Inside one of the cameras: "Due to its sensitive nature, the information contained on this website is restricted to law enforcement professionals and government agencies only. For access contact us at 503-932-6899 or email us at info@ipsurvconcepts.com" http://ipsurvconcepts.com/ Good job fellas.

The website appears to be compromised. It's hosting and redirecting to webstores/spam/porn/etc.

It seems an enterprising agent decided to start building and selling his own covert camera boxes but I wonder how old these things are now. Perhaps they've been forgotten?

Re: Redditor finds unsecured surveillance cameras seemingly placed by US government

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Post by ikeyany »

jeffbee wrote: post #41
ikeyany wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't about drones, but here is an article from last year about the DoD using surveillance balloons that use radar from 65,000 ft to generate high-res images of the ground: https://www.businessinsider.com/us-government-testing-survei...

It's so funny how you can whip up conspiracy theories just by adding superfluous adjectives. Instead of just saying "radar" you say "wireless radar device", as if prior radars used wires, and then you say it creates "high-resolution images using radio pulses", as if this did not apply to every radar ever built. We have been using aircraft to track vehicles since the invention of aircraft. The people and their governm…

Where did I say there was no legitimate interest to do this? I am in agreement with you in saying this surveillance is not new and is not a conspiracy.

Re: Redditor finds unsecured surveillance cameras seemingly placed by US government

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Post by imglorp »

gonehome wrote: post #36
ikeyany wrote: post #20

Where is the conspiracy? I thought the US government had been surveiling its cities via aerial technology. Is the conspiracy that these are unsecured?

Your comment isn't totally true in the narrow sense that it's not being done domestically by the USG specifically (at least at the time I was reading about it). The best book on the topic: https://www.amazon.com/Eyes-Sky-Secret-Gorgon-Stare/dp/05449... The primary domestic use was by the Baltimore police department and it was supplied by an individual billionaire interested in funding the project. Interesting fact in…

True if you don't count JLENS, and ARGUS, which have been deployed wherever they feel like for years. Further muddied is that there are federal grants to let local law enforcement buy this gear.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/the-rap...

https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/harford/aegis/bs-md-jl...

Re: Redditor finds unsecured surveillance cameras seemingly placed by US government

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Post by [deleted] »

gonehome wrote: post #36
ikeyany wrote: post #20

Where is the conspiracy? I thought the US government had been surveiling its cities via aerial technology. Is the conspiracy that these are unsecured?

Your comment isn't totally true in the narrow sense that it's not being done domestically by the USG specifically (at least at the time I was reading about it). The best book on the topic: https://www.amazon.com/Eyes-Sky-Secret-Gorgon-Stare/dp/05449... The primary domestic use was by the Baltimore police department and it was supplied by an individual billionaire interested in funding the project. Interesting fact in…

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Re: Redditor finds unsecured surveillance cameras seemingly placed by US government

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Post by thekevan »

BlueGh0st wrote: post #46
casefields wrote: post #4

Inside one of the cameras: "Due to its sensitive nature, the information contained on this website is restricted to law enforcement professionals and government agencies only. For access contact us at 503-932-6899 or email us at info@ipsurvconcepts.com" http://ipsurvconcepts.com/ Good job fellas.

The website appears to be compromised. It's hosting and redirecting to webstores/spam/porn/etc. It seems an enterprising agent decided to start building and selling his own covert camera boxes but I wonder how old these things are now. Perhaps they've been forgotten?

I want it to be a conspiracy. No one is intended to see the inside of the box and thus the website unless the box is compromised. So when an unauthorized person sees it and goes to that website, they see it as a spammy forgotten domain, but it's actually trying to install surveillance software to see who you are and later why you've been poking around in a box they never intended you to poke around in. (This of course includes the fact that they never intended on an internet rando finding unsecured boxes and sharing it with the world on the internet.)
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