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Once upon a time, I worked for a company in Kansas City where upper management genuinely had trouble with the idea that engineers were humans with lives outside the office. I was walking through their section of the office one day, and overheard the President of the company asking in tones of complete bewilderment why engineers were not voluntarily working twelve-hour days. Suffice to say that his confusion was refle…

Had the same experience in the midwest early in my career. Underpaid, overworked, our boss expected us to work weekends without any extra pay because we "all needed to pitch in". Corporate culture in the midwest is horrifically outdated.

Honestly, I think this is less about the Midwest and more about purposely siting a company in a town with relatively low labor costs and few other options.

At the time, there were few other choices for technology work in Kansas City.

Re: Work-from-home boom leads to more surveillance

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Tracking software is not malware. I totally oppose the use of tracking software, but they are not the same.

The only difference is a clause in the contract saying the employee agrees to use the software.

Definition of malware: software that is specifically designed to disrupt, damage, or gain unauthorized access to a computer system.

You could argue that tracking software is "disruptive" but more so to the user, not the system itself. you're conflating your dislike for both tracking software and malware as the same. Again, I'm not defending tracking software, just disagreeing with your false equivalency.

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Apps for auto mouse movements exist. It's also possible auto feed a stream of recorded video to the cam. If my employer automated stuff to spy on me, I would automate to feed the troll in that same manner.

Yeah, but is there a way you can tell?

Did the device come from corporate? If yes, then you know :)

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It’s old-fashion management. If you don’t understand your employees workload and don’t trust them then either you resign or fire the employees. Simple as that. I don’t see how this makes any employee productive. This adds more stress imo. An employee gives you 8 of their 12 hour day. Now, you tell me if that works only for you - the management. They’re people just like you. They have a life just like you. They have r…

Couldn't have said it better. One of the reasons I'm a supporter of universal basic income is so that the employees can have a better negotiating position. I suspect many bullshit rules will go out the window when the alternative to employment isn't destitution. For far too long has this negotiation been highly in favour of the employer.

Basic income is socialist utopia, state doesn't have money to pay everybody "basic pay". People need to work to earn money. There is no other option.

Re: Work-from-home boom leads to more surveillance

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once upon a time, I worked for a company in Kansas City where upper management genuinely had trouble with the idea that engineers were humans with lives outside the office. I was walking through their section of the office one day, and overheard the President of the company asking in tones of complete bewilderment why engineers were not voluntarily working twelve-hour days. Suffice to say that his confusion was refle…

There was a time when that sort of made sense. When companies didn't lay people off during hard times, carried pensions that were risky for the company, etc. It seems like some didn't understand that loyalty goes both ways...pull one side and the other goes with it.

Honest question: How do you know what you are saying about how companies used to be was ever true?

Re: Work-from-home boom leads to more surveillance

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Apps for auto mouse movements exist. It's also possible auto feed a stream of recorded video to the cam. If my employer automated stuff to spy on me, I would automate to feed the troll in that same manner.

Yeah, but is there a way you can tell?

Unless you have access to Admin and can see ALL processes running, then no. Well, I guess you could try and analyze all data leaving your computer... but is it worth it? If you're working from home, just use a different computer for non-work stuffs.

Re: Work-from-home boom leads to more surveillance

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It's up to individuals as employees to decide if they want to subject themselves to this (agreed repulsive) treatment...what's with all these comments and sentiment in this thread acting like they have a gun to their head?

JUST QUIT already if uncomfortable with whatever a given job entails should that include perceived invasive measures ie - surveillance.

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