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Re: React Native for Windows and Mac

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VSCode is a great example. We’ve already established that the average joe out there doesn’t care about whether an app is implemented in electron or not. But VSCode’s success at the expense of every other editor out there indicates that even developers don’t care that much. The important thing is features - which VSCode has, and the speed at which those features are developed and deployed on all platforms - where VSCo…

Some do, while I can't speak for the emacs community the (n)vim community is very active and engaged. There are modern vim plugins for nearly everything. The developers using VSCode tend to be developing on overpowered workstations where the difference is less noticeable. It doesn't mean it isn't wasteful. At some point we'll hit some upper bounds as an industry and have to rethink how we develop software, the trend…

> the trend back towards statically typed, compiled languages like Rust, Swift, Go are already leading us in that direction.

Indeed, even Java and .NET are improving their AOT stories, while available since the early days, weren't as widely deployed as they could have been.

Re: React Native for Windows and Mac

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React Native scares me with its dependency webs: http://npm.anvaka.com/#/view/2d/react-native From my experience, it's really great to work with and definitely saves a ton of work, but the depgraph above fills me with doubt for use in sensitive applications such as in finance or healthcare. For this reason, I've been trying out Flutter or even considering to go back to native apps. Perhaps there's some kind of middle…

Wow, that React Native dep graph is crazy! But as I browse it, most of the dependencies seem to be build-time, not runtime dependencies (i.e. it seems like most of them are related to Babel). The React comparison doesn't include dev dependencies. While react-native does have more dependencies than vanilla react, on first glance the list doesn't seem too crazy https://github.com/facebook/react-native/blob/master/packa…

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Re: React Native for Windows and Mac

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React Native scares me with its dependency webs: http://npm.anvaka.com/#/view/2d/react-native From my experience, it's really great to work with and definitely saves a ton of work, but the depgraph above fills me with doubt for use in sensitive applications such as in finance or healthcare. For this reason, I've been trying out Flutter or even considering to go back to native apps. Perhaps there's some kind of middle…

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Re: React Native for Windows and Mac

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Flutter seems to be gaining ground on React Native. And they also have web and desktop ports. Recently flutter overtook react native on Google trends.

Flutter on the web is absolutely insane. For those who don't know, it basically strips away everything and wraps it in a big terrifyingly complex mess of code and renders everything in a canvas. Flutter advocates like to claim that that's "only a fallback" for when things get complex but as far as I can tell the vast majority of things (including the simplest examples from Flutter itself) force the entire thing into…

This is an insane approach on all platforms and it's depressing that Flutter is gaining mind share. Throwing away the whole platform and rendering everything from scratch with OpenGL/Vulkan etc is just flabbergasting.

Having worked with/on React Native for ~3 years I am definitely not a fan but at least React Native enables using native components directly even if this happens too rarely.

Re: React Native for Windows and Mac

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> How long do you think Flutter will be supported by Google? I am curious about how often this sentiment gets brought up about Go or Kubernetes.

Go can easily within a year fade away to be replaced with something else. Remember MongoDB?

MongoDB still seems to be around and kicking?

Re: React Native for Windows and Mac

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Sad for developers. What I had in mind regarding desktop were big tools like Blender, Photoshop, Blender, IntelliJ IDEs, which existed long before Electron. I think it clearly shows that complex UI apps require cross platform UI, or will remain single platform (Xcode, Visual Studio).

Let me tell you a story... I was at a crossroads in 2008. I had been developing mostly in C for a decade and decided to pivot to being your standard “Enterprise Dev”. I had a choice between moving my career to C# or Java. I chose C# partly because of the bad stench of the cross platform Java IDEs at the time. Give me VS or Xcode any day over a Java based IDE. Photoshop definitely isn’t using a non native runtime. I d…

Blender is drawing it's UI in OpenGL, you can't be more cross platform than that.

Re: React Native for Windows and Mac

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Same feeling here. still waiting for that killer flutter app to convince me one can actually build a real app with decent latency in flutter

What do you mean by killer exactly? Splice is now on flutter, including web. I'd say that is a pretty demanding app.

I mean an app with a large user base built in majority with flutter.

Re: React Native for Windows and Mac

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React Native scares me with its dependency webs: http://npm.anvaka.com/#/view/2d/react-native From my experience, it's really great to work with and definitely saves a ton of work, but the depgraph above fills me with doubt for use in sensitive applications such as in finance or healthcare. For this reason, I've been trying out Flutter or even considering to go back to native apps. Perhaps there's some kind of middle…

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Re: React Native for Windows and Mac

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React Native scares me with its dependency webs: http://npm.anvaka.com/#/view/2d/react-native From my experience, it's really great to work with and definitely saves a ton of work, but the depgraph above fills me with doubt for use in sensitive applications such as in finance or healthcare. For this reason, I've been trying out Flutter or even considering to go back to native apps. Perhaps there's some kind of middle…

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Re: React Native for Windows and Mac

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React Native scares me with its dependency webs: http://npm.anvaka.com/#/view/2d/react-native From my experience, it's really great to work with and definitely saves a ton of work, but the depgraph above fills me with doubt for use in sensitive applications such as in finance or healthcare. For this reason, I've been trying out Flutter or even considering to go back to native apps. Perhaps there's some kind of middle…

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