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Re: React Native for Windows and Mac

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Post by diss »

scarface74 wrote: post #201
diss wrote: post #195

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I don't think it would be less bloated, it's impossible for a layer on top of native to be less bloated. That's not to say it couldn't be efficient, and efficiency in development time is the key factor. It can be a nightmare to manage apps across different platforms, frameworks and languages. RN could be massively improved, but the concept is a godsend.

Why would I as end user care about developer efficiency?

Aside from update frequency you wouldn't, users can't tell the difference if it's done well. Are we not talking about "the state of software development"?

Re: React Native for Windows and Mac

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Post by behindsight »

WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #159
diegof79 wrote: post #145

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I had the same experience. Expo is wonderful for prototyping and quick iteration. The ability to use Snacks online and see them working on the phone is great. But beyond that everything in RN feels hacky and unfinished. While working with it I had some silly issues with Metro, and found some subtle bugs in Text and Button components. About the "Native" part. I think that a lot of people have the expectation that doin…

Expo has one small issue... if you are in an organization that isn't capable of keeping it up to date and it becomes deprecated, your app will stop working. If this happens over a weekend, expect your phone to blow up every three hours until it gets republished and fixed.

Unless you are referring to another issue, using `expo build:android` will create an apk file so you don't have to rely on staying up to date with the Expo app.

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Post by scarlac »

fermienrico wrote: post #140
wyc wrote: post #17

React Native scares me with its dependency webs: http://npm.anvaka.com/#/view/2d/react-native From my experience, it's really great to work with and definitely saves a ton of work, but the depgraph above fills me with doubt for use in sensitive applications such as in finance or healthcare. For this reason, I've been trying out Flutter or even considering to go back to native apps. Perhaps there's some kind of middle…

The web has become truly awful and it’s invading desktop apps. We need to refactor our technology stack.

It's worth mentioning that apart from Javascript, there is nothing 'web' about React Native. To put it simply: You use Javascript to control native components. Electron and React Native are wildly different. React Native is set up to look like web development, but it is not. It makes it easier to get started, but over time you'll have to appreciate the native platform underneath.

Re: React Native for Windows and Mac

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Post by scarlac »

captainmuon wrote: post #56
wyc wrote: post #17

React Native scares me with its dependency webs: http://npm.anvaka.com/#/view/2d/react-native From my experience, it's really great to work with and definitely saves a ton of work, but the depgraph above fills me with doubt for use in sensitive applications such as in finance or healthcare. For this reason, I've been trying out Flutter or even considering to go back to native apps. Perhaps there's some kind of middle…

I wonder why there is no effort towards reducing the dependencies, or at least vendoring the worst offenders. It would be a huge quality-of-life improvement for React developers, not to mention the improved security and reliability.

There are. A lot of components have been deprecated and are being moved out into community-maintained versions. Some major examples are: Camera library, Photo Library integrations, Date/Time picker, AsyncStorage, and more. This is a large scale effort from the dev team to decrease core size: https://github.com/facebook/react-native/issues/23313

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Sophistifunk wrote: post #180
c-smile wrote: post #98

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Sciter then ( https://sciter.com ): - multiple platforms... Yes: Windows (x32,x64, ARM64), from XP to 10, MacOS, Linux/GTK, IoT and mobiles. - multiple windows - Yes. Multiple desktop windows and you can even render separate DOM elements in popup windows. - rendering to a window that isn't owned by the UI being rendered Yes, you can render it on top DirectX, OpenGL, Vulkan (coming) or in child window/nsview/gtkwidget…

HTML is half of the problem, the DOM is just fundamentally unsuited for app UI rendering, and CSS is a nightmare when applied to UI controls rather than text documents. What we need is a cross platform well-thought-out scene graph like Flash had or Flutter (kinda) has.

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Re: React Native for Windows and Mac

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Post by hpen »

eyelidlessness wrote: post #183
hpen wrote: post #64

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I would be happy to add Windows as a platform to my apps. More market == more money. Only as an add-on. I wouldn't want to write Windows exclusive apps for sure.

Not meant to disparage, but how lucrative is that market? How much do Windows users (outside of business) actually spend on software (regardless of business model)? It's a leading question, but a sincere one.

That's a good question. There doesn't seem to be much outside of famous software like the Adobe suite. That's excluding business of course. Most apps I want to make are business facing. However, I believe in web first for most of those ventures. Only making "native" apps if they're really wanted.

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Post by thekyle »

happa wrote: post #129
ProAm wrote: post #81

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The problem with flutter is you never know when Google will stop investing in the product at any moment when the devs shift their priority.and let it die on the vine.

People love to say this but rarely provide concrete examples. Google has a habit of discontinuing unsuccessful services, not technologies like SDKs or whole programming languages.

AngularJS

Re: React Native for Windows and Mac

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Post by antigirl »

diegof79 wrote: post #145
satvikpendem wrote: post #69

I tried using this a few months ago, as well as React Native for mobile and React Native Web for web, and I felt like they were all just hacks glued together to get cross-platform support, and RN isn't even native, it still includes a Javascript bridge. Build dependencies and packages were a nightmare, things continuously broke. I tried Flutter afterwards and it just felt like a breath of fresh air. Everything "just…

I had the same experience. Expo is wonderful for prototyping and quick iteration. The ability to use Snacks online and see them working on the phone is great. But beyond that everything in RN feels hacky and unfinished. While working with it I had some silly issues with Metro, and found some subtle bugs in Text and Button components. About the "Native" part. I think that a lot of people have the expectation that doin…

That’s a massive claim to say RN doesn’t feel native without alot of extra work? Please elaborate because it feels pretty native out of the box using the standard components.

It’s nothing like ionic. When is the last time you used RN? RN apps are hard to tell from native.

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