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Linux is Most Used OS in Microsoft Azure – over 50 percent of VM cores

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Re: Linux is Most Used OS in Microsoft Azure – over 50 percent of VM cores

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post #107

Yeah, those plebeian tool swingers often woefully misinterpret the shrewd protocols of someone who non-ironically shares that “unfortunately another human had a personal conversation with me after I started a business conversation”. It’s a real problem. Sorry that happened to you. Better to avoid people entirely and stick to Excel, in my experience, but the good news is you got a completely appropriate and tasteful a…

What On Earth are you talking about??

Re: Linux is Most Used OS in Microsoft Azure – over 50 percent of VM cores

#112
post #111
post #107

Yeah, those plebeian tool swingers often woefully misinterpret the shrewd protocols of someone who non-ironically shares that “unfortunately another human had a personal conversation with me after I started a business conversation”. It’s a real problem. Sorry that happened to you. Better to avoid people entirely and stick to Excel, in my experience, but the good news is you got a completely appropriate and tasteful a…

What On Earth are you talking about??

How horrifically inappropriate your entire story was, and how worse off we all are having read it. You had that one in the bag waiting for “crematorium” to be contextual, I’m sure, but I’m only left saddened about human experience arriving at the end of your story without a shred of hesitation at making light of someone’s indignity in such spectacular fashion. And, on top of it, you plopped “unfortunately” behind someone... talking to you, then co-opted their horrible story to share with all of us here.

I feel like I need a shower and I didn’t expect to read “that one time a worker annoyed me with a story about a fat person being removed from an oven half-cremated” on an article about Linux in Azure. Jesus Christ.

Re: Linux is Most Used OS in Microsoft Azure – over 50 percent of VM cores

#113
post #57

I bought books such as Linux Programming Interface to learn linux so that I can apply for jobs. Later I discovered that when the companies say Linux, they don't mean writing native applications on Linux, but that they are actually talking about java applications on app servers such as JBoss. Does anyone write native applications like thick client native applications on Windows which is also rare these days.

I am very interested in the book you mention, simply out of passion. How do you find it?

Re: Linux is Most Used OS in Microsoft Azure – over 50 percent of VM cores

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post #63

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Windows came from the single-user domain. Unix came from server space. It is literally two different evolutionary paths. From day-1, Unix was built for shared file systems, multi-user accounts, and distributed computing. Networking on Microsoft was an afterthought until the mid-90's. Sure there were token ring and banyan vines drivers in the late 80's early 90's, but that was to share a drive letter. The entire idea…

I agree that networking stuff feels pretty frustrating on Windows compared to POSIXey stuff; for the most part using a good networking library like (as mentioned above) ZeroMQ or even some of the built-in JVM socketing stuff will help abstract it, but Unix sockets are simply better out of the box. Even a simpler example though; the fact that there wasn't really a built-in analog for the "pipe" until PowerShell sort o…

You could always pipe commands, there just weren’t any worthwhile to pipe to. I often consulted this site often twenty years ago:

https://ss64.com/nt/syntax-redirection.html

And half the time you’d have to use the “for” cli monstrosity. I looked up the instructions every single time I used it for decades, that’s how bad it was/is.

Re: Linux is Most Used OS in Microsoft Azure – over 50 percent of VM cores

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Nor is there any consistency with the windows registry. Except that, by being such a pain in the posterior, noone edits it manually anymore and all changes are done through GUI apps. Editing config files is easier and faster (not to mention, automatable), so people don't bother creating "control panels" on Linux for the most part. > What would be interesting is a complete re-imagining of a server OS Not sure how 'com…

> Nor is there any consistency with the windows registry. The Windows registry is a bad implementation of a good concept. Imagine if the registry had a schema with embedded documentation, foreign key relationships, a packages database with each key owned by a package, etc...

> Imagine if the registry had a schema with embedded documentation, foreign key relationships

So a database then?

Re: Linux is Most Used OS in Microsoft Azure – over 50 percent of VM cores

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I'm interested to know what the majority of the Windows machines are used for. I can't think it'd be anything other than 'big enterprise' applications, where there seems to be a lot of bespoke stuff built specifically for Windows Server (e.g. finance software, healthcare systems, marriage registration, taxi licensing, nursing home management, etc). Unfortunately this sort of stuff is fairly rare to be available in th…

> I'm interested to know what the majority of the Windows machines are used for. I have IT experience in the "mom and pop" small-medium business world but am pretty Linux illiterate. I can buy a copy of Windows Server 2019, install the ActiveDirectory role, create a domain, and domain-join every computer that business has, and start doing all kinds of simple-but-effective policies like folder redirection+shadow copie…

Most of what you are talking about was implemented in DCE, and there were ports to Linux but it never became popular. Microsoft certainly lifted a fair amount of this code.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_Computing_Environm...

Interestingly, SMB is about to switch to Google's QUIC UDP, which is a great improvement.

Re: Linux is Most Used OS in Microsoft Azure – over 50 percent of VM cores

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post #85
post #46

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I was on the Windows platform for 15 years and moved over to Linux about 6 years ago. One thing I miss from Windows Server is that it was very stable, updates never broke anything. If you got any updates that is. I think most people use Windows server because they are locked into Microsoft technology. I switched to Linux, and most importantly open source technology - in order to get out of the Windows ecosystem. I sw…

I went for a while of bumping into lots of job opportuntities using the Microsoft stack, and thought perhaps it would be good for my career to learn a bit. But the barrier to entry seemed so high at the time - you needed MSDN subscriptions, paid IDEs, and paid servers. All out of my reach as a self taught junior developer. I don't know how or where everyone learnt it all, except as graduate developers at BigCorp?

You don't have to pay for anything to learn the Microsoft stack.

- Visual Studio Community Edition is full featured and free

- SQL Server Express is free

- You really don't need IIS but it is free. With C# you can run on top of Kestral.

Re: Linux is Most Used OS in Microsoft Azure – over 50 percent of VM cores

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post #57

I bought books such as Linux Programming Interface to learn linux so that I can apply for jobs. Later I discovered that when the companies say Linux, they don't mean writing native applications on Linux, but that they are actually talking about java applications on app servers such as JBoss. Does anyone write native applications like thick client native applications on Windows which is also rare these days.

I am very interested in the book you mention, simply out of passion. How do you find it?

Assuming this... https://www.amazon.com/Linux-Programming-Interface-System-Ha...

Re: Linux is Most Used OS in Microsoft Azure – over 50 percent of VM cores

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post #112
post #111

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What On Earth are you talking about??

How horrifically inappropriate your entire story was, and how worse off we all are having read it. You had that one in the bag waiting for “crematorium” to be contextual, I’m sure, but I’m only left saddened about human experience arriving at the end of your story without a shred of hesitation at making light of someone’s indignity in such spectacular fashion. And, on top of it, you plopped “unfortunately” behind som…

I think your interpretation is more telling of your own worldview than the parent. It had never occurred to me that such a failure mode could happen, and I thought it was a good story to share. It seems like something that may have been caught had a crematorium management system been in place.

Re: Linux is Most Used OS in Microsoft Azure – over 50 percent of VM cores

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I'm interested to know what the majority of the Windows machines are used for. I can't think it'd be anything other than 'big enterprise' applications, where there seems to be a lot of bespoke stuff built specifically for Windows Server (e.g. finance software, healthcare systems, marriage registration, taxi licensing, nursing home management, etc). Unfortunately this sort of stuff is fairly rare to be available in th…

> I'm interested to know what the majority of the Windows machines are used for. I have IT experience in the "mom and pop" small-medium business world but am pretty Linux illiterate. I can buy a copy of Windows Server 2019, install the ActiveDirectory role, create a domain, and domain-join every computer that business has, and start doing all kinds of simple-but-effective policies like folder redirection+shadow copie…

The number of servers that are used for basic filesharing and Domain authentication are dwarfed by the number of servers used for applications and databases. Linux has can manage a Windows Domain, but it doesn't support all the GPO's etc...

Windows can also manage linux authentication, but likewise is missing parts for advanced usage.

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