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Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by narrowtux »

bfieidhbrjr wrote: post #393
40four wrote: post #366

This quality of this article is terrible. It's very short (235 words), there are no concrete sources, or solid evidence that this is real. This is nothing more than speculation. Is this considered journalism is 2020? Even more sad, is when you search and try to find better sources, and realize that it's mostly just a few small, outlier publications, copy and pasting off of each other. Business Insider unabashedly cop…

> This quality of this article is terrible. It's very short (235 words), there are no concrete sources, or solid evidence that this is real. This is nothing more than speculation. Is this considered journalism is 2020? Yes.

No, this site is really fringe, I think nobody here was on this site before. I expect higher levels of quality from reputable news sources.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by yardie »

bdauvergne wrote: post #386
VHRanger wrote: post #351

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I'm French Canadian and that sounds insane. In France, there's a soft tendency to use the plural you ("vous") a lot more because of the more rigid French class system. In Quebec it's seen as a snobby thing to do due to the more working ass culture. That said, in neither country would anyone ever get a monetary fine for using one over the other. That's crazytown

I'm French French, we just think you and Walloons are rednecks with no education, see you ;)

I'm married to a frog, and they really do believe the quebecois are their poor, dumb, country cousins.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by Hir0ki »

dubcanada wrote: post #354
TulliusCicero wrote: post #223

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> Salaries are off the charts (it would make senior software engineers in SV look pale). I have a hard time believing this, given that senior engineers at places like Google or Facebook are making 300k+.

According to https://www.comparably.com/companies/lidl/salaries/software-... and glassdoor senior software engineers are around 150k to 200k and directors are around 200k to 300k. So they are largely comparable to SV salaries at Google/Facebook. Which means since Google/Facebook pay more than average, they are above average for SV. And that's at places like Berlin which are cheaper to live than SV.

>And that's at places like Berlin which are cheaper to live than SV.

But most of the Jobs aren't in cities like Berlin. Most of them are at there HQ in Heilbronn or near it. So the cost of living is even lower.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by 1MachineElf »

SamuelAdams wrote: post #390
40four wrote: post #366

This quality of this article is terrible. It's very short (235 words), there are no concrete sources, or solid evidence that this is real. This is nothing more than speculation. Is this considered journalism is 2020? Even more sad, is when you search and try to find better sources, and realize that it's mostly just a few small, outlier publications, copy and pasting off of each other. Business Insider unabashedly cop…

This article is a textbook example of "news stacking" from the book "Trust Me, I'm Lying" by Ryan Holiday [1]. Step 1, post some outlandish stories to random blog posts. These blog posts are usually niche, and are run by some "experts" with a core audience. They are trusted to be right. Then that gets picked up by intermediary news sites like this *.co.uk domain. Then it gets floated to social media, where it gets po…

NYT, Businesses Insoder, Tech Crunch, etc. can simply all report that there is a rumor, and if they just do that often enough, society will treat it like a fact.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by viridian »

siscia wrote: post #279
ThePhysicist wrote: post #126

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We host a lot of our infrastructure on Hetzner Cloud and are very happy, but to be fair it's a long long shot away from what AWS offers. You basically only have compute, storage and networking, only three datacenters and two regions to choose from and no managed services at all. You also can't do advanced networking like announcing your own IP addresses (Hetzner only allows that in colocation). You also only have a f…

Honest question, Kubernets does not helps in closing the gap between AWS and Hetzner Cloud? I would think that an honest setup supported by k8s would, at least alleviate the need of managed solution? Are there AWS services without a competitive open source solution deployable in k8s?

Serverless? K8s is explicitly not operating in the same space as triggers and code not bound to any real instances.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by AdmiralAsshat »

paganel wrote: post #134
benjohnson1707 wrote: post #96

Former Schwarz employee here: The company made SO much money in the past 4 decades with big box / discount retailing, you won't believe it. Salaries are off the charts (it would make senior software engineers in SV look pale). Hubris is as well. The only thing that drives reasoning are statements like 'we're not just some random company, we're Schwarz Group'. It's the poster child Corp described by Andy Gorves statem…

> Salaries are off the charts Just to add another data point, Lidl is also the retailer that pays the best market salaries in the Eastern-European country where I live in (they actually included that in several of their hiring ads), and I'm talking about shop people like cashiers and the people that put things on the shelves. > They are getting into the car sales and recycle business as well. In here they've also ope…

I'm sure anyone who works for a Japanese company would understand. The class/power dynamics are built into the language itself, and in most situations it is not socially appropriate to respond to your boss in the same "register" as they might address you.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by dragonwriter »

collyw wrote: post #273
dragonwriter wrote: post #197

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> It rubs me the wrong way when a $70/mo AWS instance is more than twice as slow than a $10/mo 'traditional' VPS instance. Elastic compute of the type provided by EC2 and similar services (Google Compute Engine, etc.) is a fundamentally different service than simple VPS. AWS has something that is, or is very close to, a simple VPS in LightSail, and the pricing is pretty competitive with other VPS providers. LightSail…

While I agree, I am not sure that most businesses need elastic scaling.

> While I agree, I am not sure that most businesses need elastic scaling.

Sure, lots don't. Which is why, even if AWS is the right vendor, EC2 isn't the right service for lots of uses. That's why LightSail is a thing. Comparing VPS pricing to EC2 pricing to say AWS is too expensive is the wrong comparison, because of AWS services, EC2 isn't the one that any application that can be acceptable served by a traditional VPS ought to use. It's not an apples to apples comparison. It's not even apples to oranges. It's something like apples to pork roast.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by goatinaboat »

occamrazor wrote: post #166
paganel wrote: post #134

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> Salaries are off the charts Just to add another data point, Lidl is also the retailer that pays the best market salaries in the Eastern-European country where I live in (they actually included that in several of their hiring ads), and I'm talking about shop people like cashiers and the people that put things on the shelves. > They are getting into the car sales and recycle business as well. In here they've also ope…

I guess you mean the 2nd person form (du or ihr fir singular or plural) instead of the 3rd person plural (Sie), which is the courtesy form fir singular and plural. Yes, in German it’s a big deal, roughly the same as saying “Hey dude” instead of “Good morning Mr Smith”.

Yes, in German it’s a big deal, roughly the same as saying “Hey dude” instead of “Good morning Mr Smith”.

Americans have the word “buddy” which comes from the Welsh word “butt” (don’t snigger). It is always acceptable for any Welsh person to address any other Welsh person as “butt”. Well here in South Wales anyway, it may be different in North Wales.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by oneplane »

luckylion wrote: post #345
oneplane wrote: post #295

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Sounds like a lot of conspiracy that isn't going be limited to Amazon so it still doesn't make sense to single out their computing company. If you encrypt your data on your public cloud (like you should), then no, the AWS retail company cannot 'get' your data from the AWS Web Services company.

Sure, Google or Microsoft might look at your stuff aswell - but why would they? Neither of them are in retail so they aren't competitors. If you're developing a new search engine that rivals Google, yeah, I wouldn't host that on Google's infrastructure. Have a serious contender for Microsoft's money cows? Maybe not put your code and issue tracking on GitHub.

Both are definitely in to retail. The are not market places like so that is a difference. (they both have physical and virtual stores where they sell both physical and virtual products and both own-brand as well as third party)

If companies are afraid of other companies looking at their stuff they are essentially going to have to reinvent everything themselves. What about transactions, imagine someone checking what they pay their supplier and what the customer is paying, that'd be scary. So now you can't use off-the-shelf cash registers, banking services, ERP systems etc.

The only difference people are trying to see is that AWS and Amazon Marketplace both have Amazon in the name. They don't have the same people, the same building or the same anything, except the same Bezos at the top.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by addandsubtract »

wolfgke wrote: post #339
paganel wrote: post #134

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> Salaries are off the charts Just to add another data point, Lidl is also the retailer that pays the best market salaries in the Eastern-European country where I live in (they actually included that in several of their hiring ads), and I'm talking about shop people like cashiers and the people that put things on the shelves. > They are getting into the car sales and recycle business as well. In here they've also ope…

> I agree though about the big difference between the German and US management. I have a close friend that works at the regional Lidl HQ and she got reprimanded just after being hired for having used the singular "you" (less formal) instead of the plural "you" (I'm not sure how it translates into German) when addressing herself to her bosses on the company's hallways Using "du" instead of "Sie" for adressing people c…

Using the informal "du" over "Sie" is not anywhere near using the n-word in english. Raising your outstretched hand just above head hight to greet someone would be, though.

Overall, using "du" is acceptable in 90% of social interactions. It's only when talking to people in higher positions or as a courtesy to elderly / unfamiliar people.

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