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Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by TulliusCicero »

C1sc0cat wrote: post #264
TulliusCicero wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's true, as an American here in Munich, buying too many groceries at once is anxiety-inducing. I have to limit how much I buy at once, because otherwise it's too much to fit on the conveyor belt, such that I have to wait for items to be scanned so that I can put more things on. Which leads to not being fast though putting things back in the cart (so that I can bag separately later), which pisses everyone off. I app…

So there are not enough lanes open then (sounds like poor time and motion work) and just how much stuff are you buying that you cant fit it on the belt?

> So there are not enough lanes open then (sounds like poor time and motion work)

How exactly is having more lanes going to help with the conveyor belt being small?

> just how much stuff are you buying that you cant fit it on the belt?

So the implication here is that it's my fault for buying too much stuff?

I was buying enough for at least a handful of days for a family of 3 that's stuck at home. I was trying to buy more at once during this pandemic so I don't have to visit the stores as often, but the grocery stores don't make it easy.

I can't imagine what it's like if you have 3+ kids. I mean, I guess if you're going to one of the suburban stores that are more like American ones, it might be fine then.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by bfieidhbrjr »

40four wrote: post #366

This quality of this article is terrible. It's very short (235 words), there are no concrete sources, or solid evidence that this is real. This is nothing more than speculation. Is this considered journalism is 2020? Even more sad, is when you search and try to find better sources, and realize that it's mostly just a few small, outlier publications, copy and pasting off of each other. Business Insider unabashedly cop…

> This quality of this article is terrible. It's very short (235 words), there are no concrete sources, or solid evidence that this is real. This is nothing more than speculation. Is this considered journalism is 2020?

Yes.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by wolfgke »

andrepd wrote: post #373
antaviana wrote: post #367

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Howcome the German Apple store are using “du” all over the place? Are they not well advised by their localization partners?

It's part of the brand, that advertisements which target young people / children, or else want to appear "cool", use the informal way of address.

That is true.

Additionally, this is a clear signalling that Apple targets consumers and not companies. German Apple haters scoff that this informal addressing in Apple's commercials is a clear admission that Apple's products are not suitable for doing serious work.

Such kind of informal addressing in advertizing is a very double-edged sword: Some companies (besides Apple also Ikea) use this kind of advertizing to brand themselves as hip and informal while many Germans consider this as "cheap ingratiation" [billige Anbiederung].

I am sure that this kind of advertizing made it much harder for Apple's sales department to sell to big companies.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by peterwwillis »

SparklingCotton wrote: post #99

Many good reasons why this would work in Europe. - Logistics in Germany is awesome, and Amazon really doesn't have a leg up on the already existing logistics solutions there. - For a cloud provider, negotiating deals now when AMD is on the rise must be perfect. - Beating AWS on EC2 pricing is easy. AWS EC2 pricing is insanely expensive. German providers like Hetzner Cloud entered the market at 1/10th of the EC2 price…

> A k8s-focused cloud provider gets an enormous number of already existing k8s services without the need to compete directly with all the AWS services.

Not really. AWS is largely independent service products with a few shared core services. K8s is just the core services.

Each AWS service is effectively its own product. Regardless of what tech you have in the background, you would have to make a complete product to compete with AWS's version. You would still have to build an entire customer interface and documentation and do product support.

Or you could build one giant monolith product that isn't decomposeable into services, and at that point you're no longer an AWS competitor, you're just another weird PaaS that enterprise won't touch. Enterprise is a whale, and you need whales.

Looking at k8s like it's a business solution is like looking at a wheel+tire and thinking it's a car.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by [deleted] »

SamuelAdams wrote: post #390
40four wrote: post #366

This quality of this article is terrible. It's very short (235 words), there are no concrete sources, or solid evidence that this is real. This is nothing more than speculation. Is this considered journalism is 2020? Even more sad, is when you search and try to find better sources, and realize that it's mostly just a few small, outlier publications, copy and pasting off of each other. Business Insider unabashedly cop…

This article is a textbook example of "news stacking" from the book "Trust Me, I'm Lying" by Ryan Holiday [1]. Step 1, post some outlandish stories to random blog posts. These blog posts are usually niche, and are run by some "experts" with a core audience. They are trusted to be right. Then that gets picked up by intermediary news sites like this *.co.uk domain. Then it gets floated to social media, where it gets po…

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Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by Hir0ki »

ThePhysicist wrote: post #126
SparklingCotton wrote: post #99

Many good reasons why this would work in Europe. - Logistics in Germany is awesome, and Amazon really doesn't have a leg up on the already existing logistics solutions there. - For a cloud provider, negotiating deals now when AMD is on the rise must be perfect. - Beating AWS on EC2 pricing is easy. AWS EC2 pricing is insanely expensive. German providers like Hetzner Cloud entered the market at 1/10th of the EC2 price…

We host a lot of our infrastructure on Hetzner Cloud and are very happy, but to be fair it's a long long shot away from what AWS offers. You basically only have compute, storage and networking, only three datacenters and two regions to choose from and no managed services at all. You also can't do advanced networking like announcing your own IP addresses (Hetzner only allows that in colocation). You also only have a f…

> They will probably build it on top of OpenStack or Kubernetes They are building it on top of OpenStack you can see it in there job offerings [1]

[1] https://stackit.de/de/karriere/

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by 40four »

jpswade wrote: post #369
40four wrote: post #366

This quality of this article is terrible. It's very short (235 words), there are no concrete sources, or solid evidence that this is real. This is nothing more than speculation. Is this considered journalism is 2020? Even more sad, is when you search and try to find better sources, and realize that it's mostly just a few small, outlier publications, copy and pasting off of each other. Business Insider unabashedly cop…

"The medium is the message" so they say. This is what the Internet has become. The commentary is what makes this interesting, not the content of the article.

Hey, I like comments and commentary as much as the next person. But when I waste 10 minutes of my morning perusing threads, I really hope they are about something real :)

To be fair, you're probably right. The commentary is the most interesting part, even if the content is just a rumor, or hypothetical or whatever. There is still some value to be had from the threads. I saw a lot of experiences or personal info shared here about Schwarz Group, so some of that was interesting.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by [deleted] »

bfieidhbrjr wrote: post #393
40four wrote: post #366

This quality of this article is terrible. It's very short (235 words), there are no concrete sources, or solid evidence that this is real. This is nothing more than speculation. Is this considered journalism is 2020? Even more sad, is when you search and try to find better sources, and realize that it's mostly just a few small, outlier publications, copy and pasting off of each other. Business Insider unabashedly cop…

> This quality of this article is terrible. It's very short (235 words), there are no concrete sources, or solid evidence that this is real. This is nothing more than speculation. Is this considered journalism is 2020? Yes.

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Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by cies »

eru wrote: post #325
TurboHaskal wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always struggled with this in Germany as a foreigner. Coming from a country in which the so called formal form changed significantly in the last decades and is now reserved to people you don't want to get along with (that's how politicians refer to members of other parties, or how customer support starts to address you after you tell them that you want to quit the contract), I always ended up using the informal for…

Many people who formally learn German as a second language (as opposed to just picking it up on the spot) seem to default to Sie. I guess that's what they teach in the Goethe institute. Defaulting to Sie seems like a safe default. At worst you get some funny looks for being overly formal, but you don't insult anyone.

> At worst you get some funny looks for being overly formal

Yups. The young dont like it. But I was educated to do it, hard to throw that out.

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