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Re: Thank you for helping us increase our bandwidth

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Post by dmd »

mostlysimilar wrote: post #2

archive.org feels like an irreplaceable treasure, the Wayback Machine alone is a time capsule of our digital history. I donate to them monthly and know a lot of other people do as well, so I don't worry much about their financial stability. I'm more worried about external pressures taking content down. I hope the data is backed up six ways to sunday, and that somewhere there's a plan to make it all accessible if Inte…

I'm very worried about its backups and what happens when the next Big One hits SF.

As far as I've ever been able to determine from talking to anyone at IA (e.g., Kahle, Scott), they don't really have any sort of backups that could actually be restored from in a disaster situation.

Re: Thank you for helping us increase our bandwidth

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Post by chx »

aeturnum wrote: post #31
chx wrote: post #12

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I also find it amusing that sofware developers do not recognize any more how we are on the same side in this fight. Imagine if we were still selling boxed software and they decided that in light of COVID-19 they just hand it out with a two week limit. It's an imperfect comparison but the current situation is not a reason to just discard the law. It might not be the best law, the place to fight that is in Congress and…

I mean, imagine they did. So a huge group of people get to try your software for free. There's a system to try and cut them off at two weeks but it might fail. This is basically free marketing. All sorts of people who may never have tried your software try it. Nearly all of them don't buy it, but some do. It doesn't cost you any money and you're able to help people in need. There's evidence that, in general, piracy l…

> . I think that a crisis like this is exactly the time to try new and experimental ways of making things available.

Yeah a crisis when the stress level of anyone is already much higher is the best time to crank the stress of authors even higher by experimenting with their livelihood without consulting them!

Re: Thank you for helping us increase our bandwidth

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Post by therealcamino »

gojomo wrote: post #54
therealcamino wrote: post #39

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Sounds difficult, but not a justification for breaking copyright laws, or interfering with people's livelihoods without asking.

Any author who notices the Archive's temporary 'National Emergency Library' affecting their 'livelihood' can opt out quite easily.

The HN consensus is always that only opt-in is acceptable when it comes to online privacy or anything else that affects them personally. Apparently opt-out is fine for everybody else.

You put 'livelihood' in scare quotes, but I don't understand what's deserving of mockery. Writers make their living by selling their writing.

Re: Thank you for helping us increase our bandwidth

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Post by britmob »

dmd wrote: post #61
mostlysimilar wrote: post #2

archive.org feels like an irreplaceable treasure, the Wayback Machine alone is a time capsule of our digital history. I donate to them monthly and know a lot of other people do as well, so I don't worry much about their financial stability. I'm more worried about external pressures taking content down. I hope the data is backed up six ways to sunday, and that somewhere there's a plan to make it all accessible if Inte…

I'm very worried about its backups and what happens when the next Big One hits SF. As far as I've ever been able to determine from talking to anyone at IA (e.g., Kahle, Scott), they don't really have any sort of backups that could actually be restored from in a disaster situation.

There is http://iabak.archiveteam.org, but it’s not exactly large.

Re: Thank you for helping us increase our bandwidth

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Post by enneff »

dmd wrote: post #61
mostlysimilar wrote: post #2

archive.org feels like an irreplaceable treasure, the Wayback Machine alone is a time capsule of our digital history. I donate to them monthly and know a lot of other people do as well, so I don't worry much about their financial stability. I'm more worried about external pressures taking content down. I hope the data is backed up six ways to sunday, and that somewhere there's a plan to make it all accessible if Inte…

I'm very worried about its backups and what happens when the next Big One hits SF. As far as I've ever been able to determine from talking to anyone at IA (e.g., Kahle, Scott), they don't really have any sort of backups that could actually be restored from in a disaster situation.

I wonder what the cost would be to build out a secondary backup site on a different continent.

Re: Thank you for helping us increase our bandwidth

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Post by cperciva »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #50
cperciva wrote: post #40

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60 Gbps is about 1/3 of the traffic served by a single Netflix CDN node.

> single Netflix CDN node. Looks like they max out at 100 Gbps, or as low as 40 Gbps, depending on appliance model and link aggregation configuration. No argument either way, just thought it was cool info. https://openconnect.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/3600345383...

That's out of date. Here's a presentation from last year where they talk about >190 Gbps: https://people.freebsd.org/~gallatin/talks/euro2019.pdf

Re: Thank you for helping us increase our bandwidth

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Post by microcolonel »

britmob wrote: post #64
dmd wrote: post #61

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I'm very worried about its backups and what happens when the next Big One hits SF. As far as I've ever been able to determine from talking to anyone at IA (e.g., Kahle, Scott), they don't really have any sort of backups that could actually be restored from in a disaster situation.

There is http://iabak.archiveteam.org , but it’s not exactly large.

If I'm reading that correctly, it would only cost a bit over 500 bucks a month to host that whole archive on BackBlaze B2.

Furthermore it would not be so hard to translate Archive.org items to IPFS objects, if there were an effort to pin a significant number of them to storage and network.

Re: Thank you for helping us increase our bandwidth

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Post by gxon »

endgame wrote: post #21
makomk wrote: post #16

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Governments aren't the only ones overwriting old information with new either. The BBC has developed an annoying habit of completely overwriting old articles about Covid-19 with new, semi-related ones, meaning that the only way to see what they were saying earlier in the pandemic is through sites like the Internet Archive. There's also at least one outright correction that only seems to exist on the Internet Archive n…

Here's another one: "some of our old tweets were wrong so we just quietly deleted them lol": https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/1242537366620966912

Twitter ought to have some kind of strikethrough feature. Allow users to mark that they no longer stand behind a tweet without completely deleting it.
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