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Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by makomk »

ceejayoz wrote: post #70
makomk wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I know, it's still the case that no reasonably-large country is doing much more coronavirus testing than the US right now. The UK is probably just about over the 30 tests per 1k per 30 days mark averaged over a week as of our last testing increase, Germany might still be slightly below it but I haven't seen recent figures from them and they seemed to have stalled out increasing testing, and other countries…

“The United States currently ranks 32nd in Covid-19 tests per capita, one spot ahead of Belarus.” https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/1259942315508064257

That ranking's not terribly informative. A lot of the countries heading it up are smaller ones since most countries are drawing from the same global pool of testing consumables, meaning that there's not much relationship between the difficulty of carrying out a particular number of tests and the size of the country, it's total tests done which doesn't tell you much about current testing rate, and large developed Western countries are close enough in testing rates that an actual ranking based on them probably wouldn't be very stable anyway.

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by cellar_door »

ceejayoz wrote: post #70
makomk wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I know, it's still the case that no reasonably-large country is doing much more coronavirus testing than the US right now. The UK is probably just about over the 30 tests per 1k per 30 days mark averaged over a week as of our last testing increase, Germany might still be slightly below it but I haven't seen recent figures from them and they seemed to have stalled out increasing testing, and other countries…

“The United States currently ranks 32nd in Covid-19 tests per capita, one spot ahead of Belarus.” https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/1259942315508064257

And ahead of the UK, France, and South Korea

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-cumulative-tota...

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by xienze »

ceejayoz wrote: post #70
makomk wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I know, it's still the case that no reasonably-large country is doing much more coronavirus testing than the US right now. The UK is probably just about over the 30 tests per 1k per 30 days mark averaged over a week as of our last testing increase, Germany might still be slightly below it but I haven't seen recent figures from them and they seemed to have stalled out increasing testing, and other countries…

“The United States currently ranks 32nd in Covid-19 tests per capita, one spot ahead of Belarus.” https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/1259942315508064257

The problem with talking about per capita testing numbers is that having a bigger population means you need a proportionally larger number of tests to administer to reach the same numbers as smaller countries. The will to test and the money to do so aren’t any issue. The problem is that we can’t just snap our fingers and make tens of millions of tests appear out of thin air. I think this point gets lost on a lot of people when they look at the corona scoreboard (likewise, people fixate on the large number of deaths in the US and ignore that we’re doing better than several European nations on a deaths per million basis).

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by aero142 »

It starting to bother me that the US lockdown does not appear to have a clear goal. In some countries, it is clear that the goal is to eliminate the virus from the country. Contact tracing is key as well as regional lockdowns. In the US, I don't see much evidence we are heading towards a sustainable elimination of the virus. In the well discussed Sweden example, the goal is a managed herd immunity strategy. I am curious what every else believes the goal of the lockdown currently is:

1) The elimination of the virus. If so, do you believe this is likely to happen given the current implementation?

2) Maintaining a hospitalization rate below the number of available beds while heading towards heard immunity. If so, do believe these metrics target this, or simply attempt to minimize infections.

3) Minimize infections while buying time for something we don't currently have. A vaccine, better medical treatments, more masks, something else?

Does anyone feel like they understand what the current goal is?

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by virvar »

LyalinDotCom wrote: post #58

My parents still can’t get NYS unemployment benefits processed since they started applying in March due to all the website and process problems. Sure wish they’d focus there.

I work for a city, I think you can be pretty certain that they are doing both. Hell, the team that’s working on unemployment benefits probably didn’t hear about this project before they read about it here on HN.

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by heyoni »

aero142 wrote: post #84

It starting to bother me that the US lockdown does not appear to have a clear goal. In some countries, it is clear that the goal is to eliminate the virus from the country. Contact tracing is key as well as regional lockdowns. In the US, I don't see much evidence we are heading towards a sustainable elimination of the virus. In the well discussed Sweden example, the goal is a managed herd immunity strategy. I am curi…

We're essentially trying to do the minimum possible in the US, with the hope that if we cut enough corners, we won't have to rely on legislation, cause that would never take place in a timely manner.

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by lonelappde »

verelo wrote: post #71
codemati wrote: post #2

Very informative and transparent. This should be the standard everywhere. I'm a bit surprised (and disappointed) something similar does not exist for the Bay Area.

If only there was a team, a national team...tasked with coordinating this effort.

A team for tasks, like the Air Force for air and Space Force for space?

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by lonelappde »

ceejayoz wrote: post #32
erichocean wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can of course collaborate, it's not like there are federal regulations preventing that from happening.

I think the snarky point was that the Feds (in theory) exist to provide that sort of coordination.

That's not what the Federal Government is for, though, even in theory. The Federal government handles foreign affairs and interstate disputes.

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by romwell »

jeron wrote: post #79
romwell wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I'm a bit surprised (and disappointed) something similar does not exist for the Bay Area. Keep in mind that the total number of COVID deaths in CA is less than than the number of deaths in NY on a single bad week . While a dashboard like this would be good, I think that an order of magnitude difference warrants perhaps being less disappointed.

I think that's not the point though. While we're not hit as bad, we should have a reopening dashboard instead of a silly slideshow[1] with some rhetorical questions [1]: https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/California...

>While we're not hit as bad

We are not hit as bad because of the actions of the government who has issued the shelter-in-place before NY did, when we had 1/10th the rate of infection.

I don't agree with everything the government does, but let's give credit where credit is due. That we were not hit as bad is not coincidental.

That give, I'm perfectly willing to cut them some slack.

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by romwell »

mcnamaratw wrote: post #48
romwell wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I'm a bit surprised (and disappointed) something similar does not exist for the Bay Area. Keep in mind that the total number of COVID deaths in CA is less than than the number of deaths in NY on a single bad week . While a dashboard like this would be good, I think that an order of magnitude difference warrants perhaps being less disappointed.

Not disagreeing, but don't forget how fast this thing can grow. It was doubling ... every 2 or 3 days? Smaller infected population buys you weeks of time, but that's all.

Exactly. And that's why it's important to remember that CA governor has issued as shelter-in-place order ahead of NY, while we had a 1/10X infection rate, which more than halved the slope of growth on the log scale.
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