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NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by ceejayoz »

kelnos wrote: post #40

A little concerned about: > Region must show a sustained decline in the three-day rolling average of daily hospital deaths over the course of a 14-day period. This excludes people dying in their homes, no? Is that a significant enough number of people to warrant concern? I get that it's harder to track cause of death when it doesn't occur in a hospital, but that would seem to be a necessary thing to do.

The two should move in at least a somewhat correlated manner, and one's a lot easier to measure accurately.

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by exegete »

tqi wrote: post #37

How is the public intended to consume a dashboard like this? Is this supposed to inform citizens actions in some way?

Yes it seems to inform the citizens of how the government is making this decision. What’s your criticism with it? You don’t want this communicated or just not in this way?

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by shoo »

shmatt wrote: post #43

i think what many people don't understand are how many other layers will block re-opening once the gov. gives a green light. plenty of businesses are closed in states where the Governor has given a green light to re-open. It can be plain common sense by the business owner, city laws, office buildings enforcing impossible rules such as 1 person per elevator, liability from lawsuits and the insurance fees that come fro…

> i think what many people don't understand are how many other layers will block re-opening once the gov

Separately from regulation, there's also the question of how comfortable people are at returning to their old virus-care-free routines. One anecdote reported from a visit to Wuhan is that after restrictions were lifted and people were permitted to more freely move around outside, there weren't many people who were interested in going back to eat at restaurants -- to the extent that a restaurant owner who was planning to reopen a number of restaurants ended up leaving them closed.

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/chinas-uneven-reopenin...

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by sharkweek »

shmatt wrote: post #43

i think what many people don't understand are how many other layers will block re-opening once the gov. gives a green light. plenty of businesses are closed in states where the Governor has given a green light to re-open. It can be plain common sense by the business owner, city laws, office buildings enforcing impossible rules such as 1 person per elevator, liability from lawsuits and the insurance fees that come fro…

>Office layout that needs a complete rebuild

My partner works for [LARGE BUSINESS]. She works on their real estate team, and until two months ago was working on a massive densification project to get more desks in existing square footage to accommodate a hiring boom.

Now? Shit, the C-level has asked her team to entirely scrap that and instead do the exact opposite, rethinking their entire company’s footprint to encourage distancing and limiting daily office occupancy.

Her head is spinning a bit but it has been fascinating to watch from the outside.

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by exegete »

ape4 wrote: post #11

Are they going to reopen a region if it hits all the criteria. A concern is that people will flood from a closed region to a open one.

I think this is a good point. There was supposed to be a coordinated reopening with the tristate because of that thought, but maybe that plan changed.

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by karaterobot »

Does:

> Contact Tracers: 30 per 100k residents

Mean 30 people doing manual contact tracing full time? If so, it seems like a fuzzy metric, since it would just measure butts in seats rather than any kind of efficacy. If it's measuring something else, excuse my ignorance.

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by throwaway122378 »

Look at the graph on page 10 of their powerpoint. NY has significantly beat any estimate for cases thus far. Then look at their graph on page 33 on possible scenarios for when we reopen. Another doomsday prediction THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN.

Mandatory testing? Good luck with that. Contact tracing? What happens if one of these criteria aren't met. Will Fuhrer Cuomo lock us all inside again?

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Post by josephorjoe »

shmatt wrote: post #43

i think what many people don't understand are how many other layers will block re-opening once the gov. gives a green light. plenty of businesses are closed in states where the Governor has given a green light to re-open. It can be plain common sense by the business owner, city laws, office buildings enforcing impossible rules such as 1 person per elevator, liability from lawsuits and the insurance fees that come fro…

What percentage of people don't understand that (serious question)?

I'm in nyc so my perspective is likely a little skewed, but I can't see anyone who can avoid doing so rushing back into restaurants, subways, or really any avoidable indoor or crowded activity. :(

But, yeah, I see the protesters desperately wanting to reopen everything in the midwest, so I guess a lot of people must think the problem is politics not biology and physics?

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by makomk »

klenwell wrote: post #34
mbpqd wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SFchronicle seems to be doing a good job with infographic: https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Checklist-for-Ba...

Neither site is clear where the testing capacity goal comes from. For NY, it is 30 per 1k (3%). For Bay Area, it is 200 per 100k (.2%). If my math is right, that's a significant discrepancy. Actually, I see NY's goal is monthly. So I guess that is more like 30 per 1k per 30 days (.1%). There some discussion of necessary testing rates in this NY magazine article: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/05/white-house-pla…

As far as I know, it's still the case that no reasonably-large country is doing much more coronavirus testing than the US right now. The UK is probably just about over the 30 tests per 1k per 30 days mark averaged over a week as of our last testing increase, Germany might still be slightly below it but I haven't seen recent figures from them and they seemed to have stalled out increasing testing, and other countries are similar.
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