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NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by tqi »

mwfunk wrote: post #38
tqi wrote: post #37

How is the public intended to consume a dashboard like this? Is this supposed to inform citizens actions in some way?

It clearly explains what the criteria for reopening is and shows which of those criteria each region has met, and quantifies how far they’ve got to go. And it’s kept up to date. I can’t imagine anyone looking at this and not immediately seeing how informative and useful it is.

That's the information that is on the dashboard... what are people supposed to do with that information?

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by munk-a »

ceejayoz wrote: post #32
erichocean wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can of course collaborate, it's not like there are federal regulations preventing that from happening.

I think the snarky point was that the Feds (in theory) exist to provide that sort of coordination.

That said - it's still a bit amusing that at this point there might need to be some sort of second federal government to make up for the fact that the first one keeps fumbling everything.

If only we had a deep state - then maybe we'd get the things that need doing done.

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by shmatt »

i think what many people don't understand are how many other layers will block re-opening once the gov. gives a green light.

plenty of businesses are closed in states where the Governor has given a green light to re-open.

It can be plain common sense by the business owner, city laws, office buildings enforcing impossible rules such as 1 person per elevator, liability from lawsuits and the insurance fees that come from that, office layout that needs a complete rebuild, workers scared for themselves or people they live with, and many more

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by kevmo314 »

tqi wrote: post #41
mwfunk wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It clearly explains what the criteria for reopening is and shows which of those criteria each region has met, and quantifies how far they’ve got to go. And it’s kept up to date. I can’t imagine anyone looking at this and not immediately seeing how informative and useful it is.

That's the information that is on the dashboard... what are people supposed to do with that information?

Probably nothing, but it provides a way for the government to answer the question "when are we going to open back up?" to being "when all the checkmarks are green" instead of "when we say so".

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by shmatt »

i think what many people don't understand are how many other layers will block re-opening once the gov. gives a green light.

plenty of businesses are closed in states where the Governor has given a green light to re-open.

It can be plain common sense by the business owner, food handling rules, city laws, office buildings enforcing impossible rules such as 1 person per elevator, liability from lawsuits and the insurance fees that come from that, office layout that needs a complete rebuild, workers scared for themselves or people they live with, and many more

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by KoftaBob »

tqi wrote: post #41
mwfunk wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It clearly explains what the criteria for reopening is and shows which of those criteria each region has met, and quantifies how far they’ve got to go. And it’s kept up to date. I can’t imagine anyone looking at this and not immediately seeing how informative and useful it is.

That's the information that is on the dashboard... what are people supposed to do with that information?

All the employers need to know this information so they know when they can reopen. It's not like they all have some direct hotline to the governor that will call them when they can open.

This is a good way to keep workplaces up to date so they can let their employees know to come back. Especially since the governor is letting every one of these regions handle reopening themselves, so it won't be some statewide announcement on TV.

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by munk-a »

tqi wrote: post #41
mwfunk wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It clearly explains what the criteria for reopening is and shows which of those criteria each region has met, and quantifies how far they’ve got to go. And it’s kept up to date. I can’t imagine anyone looking at this and not immediately seeing how informative and useful it is.

That's the information that is on the dashboard... what are people supposed to do with that information?

As a business owner it might let you plan around how likely it will be that you'll still be allowed to be open next week and get an idea of how safe potential customers are feeling.

I think it doesn't do a lot for folks that just work in an office - but there are a lot of people, business owners and HR folks, that are trying to help their employees get a better grip of what the situation is and how it's trending.

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by mcnamaratw »

romwell wrote: post #31
codemati wrote: post #2

Very informative and transparent. This should be the standard everywhere. I'm a bit surprised (and disappointed) something similar does not exist for the Bay Area.

>I'm a bit surprised (and disappointed) something similar does not exist for the Bay Area. Keep in mind that the total number of COVID deaths in CA is less than than the number of deaths in NY on a single bad week . While a dashboard like this would be good, I think that an order of magnitude difference warrants perhaps being less disappointed.

Not disagreeing, but don't forget how fast this thing can grow. It was doubling ... every 2 or 3 days? Smaller infected population buys you weeks of time, but that's all.

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by mcnamaratw »

thephyber wrote: post #3
codemati wrote: post #2

Very informative and transparent. This should be the standard everywhere. I'm a bit surprised (and disappointed) something similar does not exist for the Bay Area.

Edit: This post is wrong. I didn't bother to read the article and was off base on most of the facts. Leaving this post only so I can remember my shame. NYC is a single city and county with 350k government employees and they've had a coordinated data effort for nearly a decade. "Bay Area" is like 8 counties and dozens of cities, each which have their own tech stacks and legal teams, pulling their efforts in different…

This comment and the great edit are a positive combo. They help remind people that California doesn't have uniquely high population density.

Without reminders, that assumption tends to go unchecked. Silly (but real) example: I have heard someone say that SJ has higher population per sq mi than Manhattan.

Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria

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Post by ProAm »

tqi wrote: post #41
mwfunk wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It clearly explains what the criteria for reopening is and shows which of those criteria each region has met, and quantifies how far they’ve got to go. And it’s kept up to date. I can’t imagine anyone looking at this and not immediately seeing how informative and useful it is.

That's the information that is on the dashboard... what are people supposed to do with that information?

You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink. How you consume and process this information is up to you and what is important to you. Expecting the government to tell you what this information means would be overreach and presumptuous. This is great data on the state of New York in terms of metrics.
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