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U.S. Senators Advocate H-1B Freeze for 60 Days or Longer

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Post by macspoofing »

curiousllama wrote: post #16

This is a backdoor immigration cut, nothing more. COVID is irrelevant. Remember that it's not just new entrants that need H1B processing: it's immigrants currently in the country that need to transfer their visa type (e.g., former students moving from OPT to H1B). What, are they supposed to leave or risk being denied a visa forevermore? Not to mention, they've already paused green card processing and shut down most o…

>This is a backdoor immigration cut, nothing more. COVID is irrelevant.

I think COVID is very relevant. But you are also correct that this action is in line with the present administration's immigration policies outside of COVID.

In the big picture on the global scale, we're looking at a back-peddling on globalization (which includes immigration and free trade). The echos of the Great Depression should be (but aren't) on the minds of policymakers and the public because this same isolationist and protectionist philosophy exacerbated the pain of the depression.

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Post by [deleted] »

parasubvert wrote: post #38
user5994461 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should clarify that this is IT as in low level positions in cheap outsourcing firms. Not to confuse with tech companies. Edit: You can see visas per company here with average salary https://h1bdata.info/topcompanies.php You can make an opinion for yourself but suffice to say that the bulk of the jobs are in cheap outsourcing firms, not in tech companies. (cf. google 15k VS tata consulting 73k)

Lots of tech companies have highly skilled H1-Bs.

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Post by KorematsuFred »

curiousllama wrote: post #16

This is a backdoor immigration cut, nothing more. COVID is irrelevant. Remember that it's not just new entrants that need H1B processing: it's immigrants currently in the country that need to transfer their visa type (e.g., former students moving from OPT to H1B). What, are they supposed to leave or risk being denied a visa forevermore? Not to mention, they've already paused green card processing and shut down most o…

There are over 200k Indians who are stuck on h1b for more than 10 years. Most of which have us born kids. Makes no sense to have a 60 day freeze on h1bs

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

curiousllama wrote: post #16

This is a backdoor immigration cut, nothing more. COVID is irrelevant. Remember that it's not just new entrants that need H1B processing: it's immigrants currently in the country that need to transfer their visa type (e.g., former students moving from OPT to H1B). What, are they supposed to leave or risk being denied a visa forevermore? Not to mention, they've already paused green card processing and shut down most o…

H1B != immigration

Edit:

From Wikipedia: Immigration is the international movement of people to a destination country of which they are not natives or where they do not possess citizenship in order to settle as permanent residents or naturalized citizens.

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Post by [deleted] »

KorematsuFred wrote: post #49
user5994461 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should clarify that this is IT as in low level positions in cheap outsourcing firms. Not to confuse with tech companies. Edit: You can see visas per company here with average salary https://h1bdata.info/topcompanies.php You can make an opinion for yourself but suffice to say that the bulk of the jobs are in cheap outsourcing firms, not in tech companies. (cf. google 15k VS tata consulting 73k)

Microsoft , google and Facebook are consistently topmost recipient of h1b visas.

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Post by koheripbal »

JackPoach wrote: post #40

I think this is quite good in a strange way. Nobody was happy about H1-B. Tech companies were complaining that quotas were too low. Skilled workers complained that this is a ploy to keep costs down, especially in academia. I've once heard an American PhD say 'I am not afraid of competing with very smart Chinese or Indian scientists. But they are making me compete with 10 mediocre Chinese or Indian PhDs and nobody can…

This isn't a logical argument. The companies that hire H1-Bs are obviously going to be even less happy now that the quota is down to ZERO.

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Post by [deleted] »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #42
melling wrote: post #29

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What is tech unemployment? Still in the single digits?

Sounds like it's still above 0, which means you should be forced to source local talent before you're permitted to source from outside the country. It's so strange to me that this viewport is controversial, but "Buy Local" (which I have yet to encounter someone who is against supporting local businesses) is not. This is the labor version of "Buy Local".

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