Interestingly, employers prefer to layoff citizens before h1-b’s because of the illiquidity in the h1-b system.
Because it’s an abusive program. What you’re describing is a problem, not a curiosity.
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#13How much H1-Bs account for jobs in US ?
Estimated to be 400,000 mostly in IT.
Should clarify that this is IT as in low level positions in cheap outsourcing firms. Not to confuse with tech companies.
Edit: You can see visas per company here with average salary https://h1bdata.info/topcompanies.php You can make an opinion for yourself but suffice to say that the bulk of the jobs are in cheap outsourcing firms, not in tech companies. (cf. google 15k VS tata consulting 73k)
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#14Is any American firm even hiring internationally at this point? I imagine the only H1-B processing going on right now is for transfers.
International transfers don’t need to use H1Bs, there is another visa to use that doesn’t have a strict quota.
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#15If you are an employer looking for cheap slave like labor this is bad news. Americans want to high a salary these days. I need employees who are always afraid of being deported so I can insure they don’t leave for a better job.
Wait are you saying you are hiring "cheap slave like labor" and now you won't be able to?
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#16This is a backdoor immigration cut, nothing more. COVID is irrelevant.
Remember that it's not just new entrants that need H1B processing: it's immigrants currently in the country that need to transfer their visa type (e.g., former students moving from OPT to H1B). What, are they supposed to leave or risk being denied a visa forevermore?
Not to mention, they've already paused green card processing and shut down most offices that process F1 (student) visas. The US just doesn't want high-skilled immigrants anymore.
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#17Interestingly, employers prefer to layoff citizens before h1-b’s because of the illiquidity in the h1-b system.
right? why would they give up one of those coveted H1B spots when they could just layoff an american that they could always rehire later.
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#18If you are an employer looking for cheap slave like labor this is bad news. Americans want to high a salary these days. I need employees who are always afraid of being deported so I can insure they don’t leave for a better job.
Wait are you saying you are hiring "cheap slave like labor" and now you won't be able to?
You know, I'm no expert, but I think he's being sarcastic.
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#19If you are an employer looking for cheap slave like labor this is bad news. Americans want to high a salary these days. I need employees who are always afraid of being deported so I can insure they don’t leave for a better job.
Wait are you saying you are hiring "cheap slave like labor" and now you won't be able to?
Pretty sure that was sarcasm.
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#20Of course, doing so will do very little to nothing for American workers. Companies who want the top talent will go where the top talent lives, and this may just speed up the process (one example could be a simple adjustment to hire more folks in Vancouver, for example). Somehow, some people in the US forget that yesterday's immigrant is today's citizen.