Results: Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Help Us Build the Post-Pandemic World
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Re: Results: Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Help Us Build the Post-Pandemic World
#2The experiment was terribly flawed in that it only addressed the unemployed, and it didn't affect the existing unemployment system for them, making incentives perverse for all taking part. The UBI was offered tax-free on top.
It represents nothing like real life UBI and needs to be redesigned as a test.
Re: Results: Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Help Us Build the Post-Pandemic World
#3It only works for a relatively small group of people. Scaling it up to 100% of the population would result in inflation.
Re: Results: Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Help Us Build the Post-Pandemic World
#4It only works for a relatively small group of people. Scaling it up to 100% of the population would result in inflation.
There is no money added, it comes from other systems it replaces
Re: Results: Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Help Us Build the Post-Pandemic World
#5Nothing in Scandinavia or Japan is a viable concept for elsewhere unless explicitly tested elsewhere.
Re: Results: Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Help Us Build the Post-Pandemic World
#6The experiment was terribly flawed in that it only addressed the unemployed, and it didn't affect the existing unemployment system for them, making incentives perverse for all taking part. The UBI was offered tax-free on top. It represents nothing like real life UBI and needs to be redesigned as a test.
Why can’t we ever design one such experiment right? It’s as if we were giving ammunition to those opposed to it by conducting trials that have flaws! Would it really be so hard to run a proper test that follows all the best practices and isn’t biased/flawed so that we could once and for all point at it and say “we can conclusively say UBI is/isn’t viable based on this experiment”?
I mean if a country goes all the way to overcoming political and opinion opposition along with securing funding to actually run such a trial, why not go all the way and do it right?
Re: Results: Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Help Us Build the Post-Pandemic World
#7Nothing in Scandinavia or Japan is a viable concept for elsewhere unless explicitly tested elsewhere.
No country's alike, and no system can be copied naively.
(also Finland isn't part of Scandinavia)
Re: Results: Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Help Us Build the Post-Pandemic World
#8true it was not a test of "universal basic income" as such as it targeted only part of the population.
Some results are, however, relevant when assessing them from the world of (post-pandemic) 2020: the participants of the experiment reported 1) less economic troubles and financial stress; 2) Higher confidence in future possibilities; 3) More self-determination and autonomy.
Re: Results: Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Help Us Build the Post-Pandemic World
#9> Build the Post-Pandemic World
Unfortunately how the insane amount of money was injected in other countries since some months seems to indicate that the rest of the world have absolutely no ambition to build a new world nor share the same vision.
Re: Results: Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Help Us Build the Post-Pandemic World
#10true it was not a test of "universal basic income" as such as it targeted only part of the population. Some results are, however, relevant when assessing them from the world of (post-pandemic) 2020: the participants of the experiment reported 1) less economic troubles and financial stress; 2) Higher confidence in future possibilities; 3) More self-determination and autonomy.
but did UBI encourage more productivity from those participants? Is it more than the cost of such a program? I want to know if UBI is a net benefit or not.