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Re: Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font

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Post by ars »

IgorPartola wrote: post #66

As a way to show off the capability of ligatures, more power to them. As an effort to censor, why in the ever loving fuck nuggets would you ever actually do that? I have young kids and a large family. We all curse periodically. Instead of telling the kids that these are bad words, we told them they are adult words. As in, when you are old enough you can curse all you want, but as a kid you can’t. We felt that this wa…

> would you ever actually do that?

Because if you don't, then swear words lose their power. And well, sometimes you need them.

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faster wrote: post #165
IgorPartola wrote: post #66

As a way to show off the capability of ligatures, more power to them. As an effort to censor, why in the ever loving fuck nuggets would you ever actually do that? I have young kids and a large family. We all curse periodically. Instead of telling the kids that these are bad words, we told them they are adult words. As in, when you are old enough you can curse all you want, but as a kid you can’t. We felt that this wa…

When my daughter was about 5 we were on public transit and a bunch of teens were talking near us. Every second or third word was 'fuck' or 'shit'. My daughter asked why they talk that way. I told her it was because they didn't know enough words to say what they meant. 15 years later, she speaks two languages fluently and 2 more at about middle school level. She swears a little, but she knows how to say what she means…

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Re: Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font

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Post by ThePowerOfFuet »

Baeocystin wrote: post #192
JacobAldridge wrote: post #68

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FUCK is still my default “Find>Replace>Find>Replace” placeholder. Need to shift a wad of spreadsheet cells laden with formulas but don’t want to risk anything? Find All “=“ Replace with “FUCK” Copy/Move Find All “FUCK” Replace with “=“ Also handy for updating words or names when word processing. The choice dates back to my first computer - I remember replacing all spaces “ “ with “FUCK” and watching gloriously as the…

You mean you don't have it mapped to 'sudo $previous_line'?

https://github.com/nvbn/thefuck

Re: Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font

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Post by trophycase »

gen220 wrote: post #217
6gvONxR4sf7o wrote: post #178

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I think it's a part of a broader challenge. In writing circles, there's always advice not to use some specific list of words. The list varies. An example list from a quick googling: - really, very - just - totally, completely, absolutely - thing - some - rather, quite, somewhat, somehow - ... Like all style advice, it's not really a "rule" to follow, but it's surprisingly difficult to avoid some of these words. I str…

At work, we have a trillion custom slack emojis, and one is a big X with the caption “no-just”, encouraging people to refrain using just in sentences like “you just need to set up the Kafka consumer”. Now that I’m writing this out, it sounds kinda dystopian , but I actually appreciate the doublethink. I believe that pruning “just” (and cousins like “really” “very”, “it” the direct object/noun, “something”) has increa…

But "you need to set up the Kafka consumer" and "you just need to set up the Kafka consumer" have different meanings.

You're not just pruning, but changing the meaning. The latter implies there is only one thing you need to do, while the former is open ended, and could imply the beginning of a set of needs.

"Just" can also add emphasis. "That's stupid" and "that's just stupid" have different nuance.

Re: Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font

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Post by jamiek88 »

Osiris wrote: post #211
jawns wrote: post #83

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Around middle school, I decided that I would stop using swear words, because it seemed like getting myself in trouble by letting one slip out at an inappropriate time was more of a bother than just avoiding them and coming up with more inventive ways to express myself. Refraining from curse words has been part of my character ever since, and just about everybody who knows me knows that I don't swear. And you know wha…

I also don't cuss / use profane language. However, I have found a few idioms that just don't quite translate. For example, my co-workers laugh at me for saying "for kicks and giggles" instead of "s$!#s and giggles". I've also seen people in leadership positions use a lot of foul language and it can really bring down the professionalism. As someone that doesn't use that language I find that avoid the trap of letting s…

It’s really unfair but you come across as a Ned Flanders type here.

I mean for kicks and giggles. You know you mean shits and giggles, they know you mean shits and giggles, the phrase makes no sense with kicks.

Seems pointdiddlyointless.

Re: Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font

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Post by mirimir »

User23 wrote: post #176
jrumbut wrote: post #158

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I don't think vulgar goes along with basic, the four letter, Germanic versions of fornicate and defecate have a whole range of varied, nuanced, often contradictory meanings that capture the irreducible complexity of lived experience. The Latin derived versions just make everything so bloodless, so focused on one particular aspect of the concept. They really are the simple words, even if they have more letters.

What many people consider the strongest English vulgarity is derived from the Latin cunnus.

But not so much in the UK, right?

Re: Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font

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Post by gen220 »

trophycase wrote: post #234
gen220 wrote: post #217

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At work, we have a trillion custom slack emojis, and one is a big X with the caption “no-just”, encouraging people to refrain using just in sentences like “you just need to set up the Kafka consumer”. Now that I’m writing this out, it sounds kinda dystopian , but I actually appreciate the doublethink. I believe that pruning “just” (and cousins like “really” “very”, “it” the direct object/noun, “something”) has increa…

But "you need to set up the Kafka consumer" and "you just need to set up the Kafka consumer" have different meanings. You're not just pruning, but changing the meaning. The latter implies there is only one thing you need to do, while the former is open ended, and could imply the beginning of a set of needs. "Just" can also add emphasis. "That's stupid" and "that's just stupid" have different nuance.

Yeah you’re right. Most sentences don’t survive subtracting the word “just” exactly as they were written. It’s more food for thought. I agree it changes the meaning, and I wouldn’t advocate a universal ban (your example is evidence for the second half of my original post, I think).

Re: Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font

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Post by mirimir »

jawns wrote: post #129
kandaBear wrote: post #107

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There's actually been interesting research done about that idea, that people who swear have a smaller vocabulary or are less fluent. It seems that the opposite is actually true¹, people who swear are actually demonstrating a broader fluency. Worth a read! ¹ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S03880...

It doesn't surprise me that people with larger overall vocabularies also have larger swear vocabularies. But the study you cite deals only with taboo word fluency, not with actual usage. I would be curious whether high-vocab swearers diverge from low-vocab swearers in how they actually use bad language. In my experience, even my high-vocab friends drop f-bombs in substantially the same way that lower-vocab friends do…

Some of my favorites come from the Jargon Lexicon.[0]

0) http://hackersdictionary.com/html/The-Jargon-Lexicon-framed....

Re: Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font

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Post by mirimir »

markdown wrote: post #226
jawns wrote: post #83

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Around middle school, I decided that I would stop using swear words, because it seemed like getting myself in trouble by letting one slip out at an inappropriate time was more of a bother than just avoiding them and coming up with more inventive ways to express myself. Refraining from curse words has been part of my character ever since, and just about everybody who knows me knows that I don't swear. And you know wha…

So what do you use? Gosh darn it to heck? What the frick?

I liked "frack" and derivatives in BSG2.

Re: Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font

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Post by Angostura »

IgorPartola wrote: post #66

As a way to show off the capability of ligatures, more power to them. As an effort to censor, why in the ever loving fuck nuggets would you ever actually do that? I have young kids and a large family. We all curse periodically. Instead of telling the kids that these are bad words, we told them they are adult words. As in, when you are old enough you can curse all you want, but as a kid you can’t. We felt that this wa…

> we told them they are adult words

Not really "adult words", we told them the truth - they are considered impolite and may cause offence. It's a question of social convention, after all.

Also, this font is clearly a bit of fun, not "an effort to censor"

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