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Progress on Plasma

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Re: Progress on Plasma

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Personally I consider the KDE the only DE that feels like it can compete with an OS like Windows or OSX. It's just a lot of small things that add up to make it feel cohesive. Like how the file explorer has a built in terminal that follows the folder you're in. A lot of people call that philosophy bloat. But honestly I've got a PC with 32 GB of RAM and a laptop with 16GB. Like the Ubuntu Studio people have said 50MB m…

KDE is actually one of the lightest in terms of memory usage of all the DE's.

Re: Progress on Plasma

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I don't know where all of the love for KDE is coming from. It's got so many graphical and UI bugs even in comparison to XFCE that I can't use it as my daily driver.

Its probably selection bias.

I liked KDE but it was too complicated for my use case. In general I have found that the fewer features a desktop environment has the more I enjoy using it.

I’m surprised that the logical minded folk of HN aren’t more geared to minimalist environments like simple window managers. If you’re an engineer why do you need or want a fully fledged desktop environment? I stopped using KDE after I discovered all I needed was a window manager and application launcher.

Re: Progress on Plasma

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I wish KDE had the same level of resources behind it as GNOME does. I keep occasionally trying new versions of GNOME but it feels like a DE optimized to look good in screenshots and always falls short when actually using it. KDE on the other hand looks relatively good and is infinitely more usable to me. It's got some rougher edges and a weaker application ecosystem but still comes out ahead for me. I also vastly pre…

I don't want to defend Gnome because I also can't stand it over KDE most of the time, but I think GNOME is built for one actually useful thing... laptops. Gnome feels good on a computer with a single small display.

I actually find that GNOME is worse on laptops. My X1C6 is running at effectively 1600x900 and the amount of vertical space wasted by the height and padding of GNOME/GTK titlebars and widgets drives me crazy.

With KDE on a laptop I just set up the dock vertically on the righthand side and I'm good to go.

GNOME's workspace switcher/overview thing is better than anything KDE has though. It's much closer in function and polish to macOS than KDE is.

Re: Progress on Plasma

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People who use KDE, what's your favorite distro? I wanna give ita shot.

Why does choice of desktop environment impact choice of distro? I ask as a question out of my own ignorance. I started with arch and I just bolt on whatever desktop environment or window manager I want.

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Re: Progress on Plasma

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly - a desktop experience should track the current desktop hardware. If you have 512mb of ram and a pentium 4 then too bad. Let’s not hobble the future because of the past.

What about people who bought a low-to-mid range laptop last year? While 8G isn't .5G, it's still low enough that you'd quickly hit swap (a bloated modern browser + multimedia authoring tools) Tracking "current" desktop hardware is a quick way to get yourself another vista.

Firstly 50MB isn't ".5G", it's 0.05GB (you're out by an order of magnitude).

You're point about not tracking current is relevant though....or at least it is for some domains. When it comes to multimedia authoring you do expect people to running at least current systems because multimedia authoring is hardware heavy processes thus professionals will invest in the hardware to support them. Even weirder is the expectation that you'd want to be running a hardware heavy web-browser while running your hardware heavy authoring tools on those modest systems. That feels like you're making some unfair demands tbh.

As for KDE5, that runs fine on older hardware. I have a 7 year old laptop and KDE flies.

Re: Progress on Plasma

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I wish KDE had the same level of resources behind it as GNOME does. I keep occasionally trying new versions of GNOME but it feels like a DE optimized to look good in screenshots and always falls short when actually using it. KDE on the other hand looks relatively good and is infinitely more usable to me. It's got some rougher edges and a weaker application ecosystem but still comes out ahead for me. I also vastly pre…

KDE works much better for me, personally. Just avoid the aboslute shitshow that is Kubuntu. (I know they try hard, but...) Go for a distro that follows upstream more closely.

Yes, I've settled on Manjaro KDE since the demise of Antergos. Do vanilla Arch once for the experience and then find better things to do with your time after that...

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As you said, you got a PC with 32GB of RAM and a laptop with 16GB.

Exactly - a desktop experience should track the current desktop hardware. If you have 512mb of ram and a pentium 4 then too bad. Let’s not hobble the future because of the past.

Your current desktop hardware.

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Why is it that the basic unit of distribution for anything Linux is a Distro? Want to serve web applications? Here’s a server distro. Want to work on penetration testing? Here’s a distro. Want to develop embedded systems? Another Distro. Creative arts? Distro again. The OS level fragmentation of Linux is maddening, when you consider that what these actually all are is different operating systems. Why does the Ubuntu…

It’s a combination of politics and the way that DEs step on each other on Debian-derived distros (more than other package managers, for some reason). For the most part, these specialty distributions are just for newer users who have specific goals and aren’t willing to troubleshoot on their own. Linux is such a vast community that there’s a lot of software that doesn’t play well together. Many people see the value in providing an integrated experience for a particular use.

Re: Progress on Plasma

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I wish KDE had the same level of resources behind it as GNOME does. I keep occasionally trying new versions of GNOME but it feels like a DE optimized to look good in screenshots and always falls short when actually using it. KDE on the other hand looks relatively good and is infinitely more usable to me. It's got some rougher edges and a weaker application ecosystem but still comes out ahead for me. I also vastly pre…

KDE works much better for me, personally. Just avoid the aboslute shitshow that is Kubuntu. (I know they try hard, but...) Go for a distro that follows upstream more closely.

KDE neon?
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