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Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by anuragsoni »

andai wrote: post #7

People who use KDE, what's your favorite distro? I wanna give ita shot.

Whenever i've tried KDE my favorite experience has been on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. Its a rolling distro, but provides a really nice installer and stable experience because of their automated QA process. The KDE stack is provided as intended by upstream without much customizations (they use their wallpaper for the lock screen and desktop), and the updates are quick. If you try it, you might also like their support for btrfs + snapshots. If an update isn't to your liking, it'll allow you to boot into an old snapshot and rollback.

I still use tumbleweed, but with Gnome and this has been my distro of choice for the past couple of years. (I moved from Ubuntu)

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by veridies »

qppo wrote: post #18
fit2rule wrote: post #4

As a longtime user of Ubuntu Studio on a very productive DAW, this is welcome news - XFCE has certainly been a great choice for the last few years, but KDE has a lot more to offer, especially now the resource usage is comparable. I have a feeling it'll also sway MacOS DAW users to take a closer look at just what Linux has to offer pro audio users - amazing latency specs, even when compared to Mac, which has tradition…

Is this a joke? There's so much overhead in getting a working setup compared to MacOS, and only one of the major DAWs even runs natively on it. The tools are far from "excellent" compared to the offerings on MacOS and even Windows. I can't even get the Jack server to start on my Ubuntu machine. It's not snobbiness, the software isn't there and what is there is user hostile. I know the reply to this comment is "have y…

I agree with you, unfortunately. Obviously Linux has a great deal of flexibility, but the basic tools one relies upon for audio editing either aren't there or are significantly handicapped. I once tried a basic project idea on my linux laptop to see how well I could get it to work; after three days it was almost usable. The same project took me an hour on my Mac with Logic Pro X.

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by Quekid5 »

kevinherron wrote: post #5

I wish KDE had the same level of resources behind it as GNOME does. I keep occasionally trying new versions of GNOME but it feels like a DE optimized to look good in screenshots and always falls short when actually using it. KDE on the other hand looks relatively good and is infinitely more usable to me. It's got some rougher edges and a weaker application ecosystem but still comes out ahead for me. I also vastly pre…

KDE works much better for me, personally. Just avoid the aboslute shitshow that is Kubuntu. (I know they try hard, but...)

Go for a distro that follows upstream more closely.

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by qwerty456127 »

Despite KDE is my desktop of choice nowadays (and XFCE is what I always retreated to when Ubuntu switched DEs or when something stopped working), I don't really get why does Ubuntu Studio have to use a DE different from that of the default Ubuntu.

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by gnud »

bananamerica wrote: post #22
Jonnax wrote: post #3

Personally I consider the KDE the only DE that feels like it can compete with an OS like Windows or OSX. It's just a lot of small things that add up to make it feel cohesive. Like how the file explorer has a built in terminal that follows the folder you're in. A lot of people call that philosophy bloat. But honestly I've got a PC with 32 GB of RAM and a laptop with 16GB. Like the Ubuntu Studio people have said 50MB m…

As you said, you got a PC with 32GB of RAM and a laptop with 16GB.

This article is about Ubuntu Studio switching to KDE.

> For reference, Ubuntu Studio is created for more powerful computers, is not meant to run on low-powered or older hardware, and is not meant to give an old computer new life. For that reason, from our perspective, the RAM usage between the two desktops is nearly the same.

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by mrrsm »

guug wrote: post #44
orf wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly - a desktop experience should track the current desktop hardware. If you have 512mb of ram and a pentium 4 then too bad. Let’s not hobble the future because of the past.

What about people who bought a low-to-mid range laptop last year? While 8G isn't .5G, it's still low enough that you'd quickly hit swap (a bloated modern browser + multimedia authoring tools) Tracking "current" desktop hardware is a quick way to get yourself another vista.

If you bought a budget computer do you really expect it to be able to handle running even minor taxing applications. In my experience most people who are buying a budget laptop need a great web browsing experience and maybe an office suite (if they aren't using a cloud one already).

My guess is running a browser with Spotify or YouTube, some social networking tabs, and maybe google docs or office 365 word will not pose any issues.

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by vosper »

guug wrote: post #44
orf wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly - a desktop experience should track the current desktop hardware. If you have 512mb of ram and a pentium 4 then too bad. Let’s not hobble the future because of the past.

What about people who bought a low-to-mid range laptop last year? While 8G isn't .5G, it's still low enough that you'd quickly hit swap (a bloated modern browser + multimedia authoring tools) Tracking "current" desktop hardware is a quick way to get yourself another vista.

> While 8G isn't .5G, it's still low enough that you'd quickly hit swap (a bloated modern browser + multimedia authoring tools)

High memory usage from a browser or multimedia authoring tools is not the fault or responsibility of the desktop environment?

Edit: Or was your point more that the desktop environment should use minimal memory so that the user can have a better experience with their applications? That makes sense, except in this case Ubuntu Studio explicitly states that it’s designed for powerful machines and not ones with more limited resources

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by simonh »

Why is it that the basic unit of distribution for anything Linux is a Distro? Want to serve web applications? Here’s a server distro. Want to work on penetration testing? Here’s a distro. Want to develop embedded systems? Another Distro. Creative arts? Distro again.

The OS level fragmentation of Linux is maddening, when you consider that what these actually all are is different operating systems. Why does the Ubuntu desktop operating system need to be re-engineered from the ground up in a to-the-bare-metal OS install just to make it compelling for creatives? What on Earth is wrong with the base Ubuntu desktop distro that makes this in any way a good idea?

Is it due to the way that application package repositories are selected and integrated into base desktop distro repositories? It seems like I should be able to install Ubuntu desktop distro with a KDE desktop package selected from the repo, then select all these creative apps and bingo - I’ve got Ubuntu Studio. Or at least start with Kubuntu. I’m sorry if I’m being negative or antagonistic, I genuinely don’t know - what is it about distro engineering, politics or organisation that leads to this situation?

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by otabdeveloper4 »

orf wrote: post #24
bananamerica wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As you said, you got a PC with 32GB of RAM and a laptop with 16GB.

Exactly - a desktop experience should track the current desktop hardware. If you have 512mb of ram and a pentium 4 then too bad. Let’s not hobble the future because of the past.

There' no such thing as a "current desktop hardware" in 2020. Specs haven't been changing in like a decade.
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