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Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by xyquadrat »

coopsmgoops wrote: post #11
andai wrote: post #7

People who use KDE, what's your favorite distro? I wanna give ita shot.

KDE has their own plasma distribution, I've never used it but it seems like a solid option

To elaborate on this, we (we as in other developers in KDE, not me personally) have created KDE Neon (https://neon.kde.org/) which is Ubuntu LTS + the latest KDE software. It's great for using the up-to-date KDE Plasma & application versions while having a stable base in Ubuntu LTS.

I've personally used it for nearly 3 years now, and never had any problems with KDE Neon. It probably isn't a good option if you'd like to have the newest versions everywhere, since the base system is only thoroughly upgraded on every Ubuntu LTS release.

If you have any questions regarding KDE software or KDE Neon, I'd be happy to answer them on #kde:kde.org (Matrix) which is also bridged to #kde on freenode.

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by CoolGuySteve »

flyingpenguin wrote: post #14
kevinherron wrote: post #5

I wish KDE had the same level of resources behind it as GNOME does. I keep occasionally trying new versions of GNOME but it feels like a DE optimized to look good in screenshots and always falls short when actually using it. KDE on the other hand looks relatively good and is infinitely more usable to me. It's got some rougher edges and a weaker application ecosystem but still comes out ahead for me. I also vastly pre…

I don't want to defend Gnome because I also can't stand it over KDE most of the time, but I think GNOME is built for one actually useful thing... laptops. Gnome feels good on a computer with a single small display.

I'm probably the last person who still uses Unity and it's for this exact reason. I set the launch bar to auto hide and use the compiz Expose clone hot corners to switch windows.

It all just gets out of the way.

I don't know why Gnome didn't adopt the Unity menu bar integration, instead you get to waste space on the taskbar on the bottom AND that useless status bar on the top.

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by snazz »

specktr wrote: post #13
andai wrote: post #7

People who use KDE, what's your favorite distro? I wanna give ita shot.

I’ve been using Fedora for over a year with KDE. Before that it was Kubuntu for a year. The difference is night and day in my opinion. I believe this is due to the constant updates on fedora that fixed many annoying bugs I had with the ubuntu install. The downside is that you are likely to get a kernel update about once a week, it honestly hasn’t been an issue and i’m a college student who needs essentially 100% upti…

I'm not a fan of DNF as a package manager (it's fast enough for bulk operations but takes a long time to do very simple interactive things, compared to pacman or apt), but I wholeheartedly second this recommendation for people who want to avoid installing hundreds of PPAs and third-party repositories to get their work done. Fedora also has a lot of niche packages (like the Zola static site generator) that are only in the AUR or third-party repositories for other distributions. The defaults are good from a security and usability standpoint as well.

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by wtetzner »

orf wrote: post #24
bananamerica wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As you said, you got a PC with 32GB of RAM and a laptop with 16GB.

Exactly - a desktop experience should track the current desktop hardware. If you have 512mb of ram and a pentium 4 then too bad. Let’s not hobble the future because of the past.

And you don’t need every desktop environment to handle every use case. If you have limited resources, run something like XFCE.

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by guug »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #10

I don't know where all of the love for KDE is coming from. It's got so many graphical and UI bugs even in comparison to XFCE that I can't use it as my daily driver.

A good user interface is one you don't realize you're using. KDE is flexible enough to fit many workflows and doesn't (try to) constantly get in your way.

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by blinkingled »

kevinherron wrote: post #5

I wish KDE had the same level of resources behind it as GNOME does. I keep occasionally trying new versions of GNOME but it feels like a DE optimized to look good in screenshots and always falls short when actually using it. KDE on the other hand looks relatively good and is infinitely more usable to me. It's got some rougher edges and a weaker application ecosystem but still comes out ahead for me. I also vastly pre…

Yeah but I hope it's not the same kind of resources - https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=HarfBuzz...

Gnome developers have their head buried deep and firm in sands at this point.

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by nyanpasu64 »

shrimp_emoji wrote: post #26
Jonnax wrote: post #3

Personally I consider the KDE the only DE that feels like it can compete with an OS like Windows or OSX. It's just a lot of small things that add up to make it feel cohesive. Like how the file explorer has a built in terminal that follows the folder you're in. A lot of people call that philosophy bloat. But honestly I've got a PC with 32 GB of RAM and a laptop with 16GB. Like the Ubuntu Studio people have said 50MB m…

Besides an integrated terminal, Dolphin also has a split mode! https://i.imgur.com/4blIFer.png How does a file manager made by four Dutch guys for free beat Explorer, the file manager of the 99.9% marketshare multi-billion-dollar hegemon OS (which only got a dark mode like yesterday)?

The integrated terminal behaves badly with zsh/oh-my-zsh (random memory being printed to screen, extra space on the prompt whenever you switch folders), and sometimes fails to track folders. Should I report these issues?

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by Sharlin »

shrimp_emoji wrote: post #26
Jonnax wrote: post #3

Personally I consider the KDE the only DE that feels like it can compete with an OS like Windows or OSX. It's just a lot of small things that add up to make it feel cohesive. Like how the file explorer has a built in terminal that follows the folder you're in. A lot of people call that philosophy bloat. But honestly I've got a PC with 32 GB of RAM and a laptop with 16GB. Like the Ubuntu Studio people have said 50MB m…

Besides an integrated terminal, Dolphin also has a split mode! https://i.imgur.com/4blIFer.png How does a file manager made by four Dutch guys for free beat Explorer, the file manager of the 99.9% marketshare multi-billion-dollar hegemon OS (which only got a dark mode like yesterday)?

Well, Norton Commander[1] had a split view and an integrated terminal in 1984. Shipping a power-user file manager has simply never been a priority for Microsoft.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Commander

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by zests »

andai wrote: post #7

People who use KDE, what's your favorite distro? I wanna give ita shot.

Why does choice of desktop environment impact choice of distro? I ask as a question out of my own ignorance.

I started with arch and I just bolt on whatever desktop environment or window manager I want.

Re: Progress on Plasma

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Post by jefft255 »

nyanpasu64 wrote: post #37
shrimp_emoji wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Besides an integrated terminal, Dolphin also has a split mode! https://i.imgur.com/4blIFer.png How does a file manager made by four Dutch guys for free beat Explorer, the file manager of the 99.9% marketshare multi-billion-dollar hegemon OS (which only got a dark mode like yesterday)?

The integrated terminal behaves badly with zsh/oh-my-zsh (random memory being printed to screen, extra space on the prompt whenever you switch folders), and sometimes fails to track folders. Should I report these issues?

Of course! The answer to your question is always yes. This is very helpful to OSS developers.
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