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Why are some people better at working from home than others?

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Re: Why are some people better at working from home than others?

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You need a home office, a separate room in your home. It's too easy to get distracted otherwise. Simple as that.

While I agree that a home office is very good, saying that it's as simple as just having a home office isn't always enough. It's downplaying the issue.

For instance having a set schedule, regular breaks, getting fresh air and filling the social need is not something that comes naturally to everyone or that a home office magically solve.

Re: Why are some people better at working from home than others?

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I first experienced this roughly a year ago when I was having a discussion with a colleague in China, and she happened to be at home because of the time zone difference. All of a sudden, a baby started screaming and all hell broke loose. She was so embarrassed, but we all just laughed it off and she realized that we weren't annoyed at all. When we all went on lockdown recently, I noticed that at first people were car…

> Maybe it will go even further, and normalize folks having a real life. I absolutely love this. I love seeing my colleagues contextualized in their private spaces, that reflects their personal choices, humanity, wholeness. In the office this is reduced to a 2x5' desk. Office as a space also has a sense of self-importance to it. It is not unlike a church or a stadium where the purpose of the gathering is super-salien…

Totally agreed. At the same time, I also feel that someone should be able to separate work and life if they want to. I have one colleague who never turns her camera on, which is perfectly OK too.

Re: Why are some people better at working from home than others?

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I’m not familiar with Jiu-Jitsu specifically but I have trained in a few martial arts, Japanese and western, and they usually have routines you can practice on your own. Is the same not true for Jiu-jitsu? With the bored sports, while you obviously couldn’t train your board skills, you could still keep working on those muscles and stamina at home through different training exercises. I agree none of this is the same…

If he's talking about Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, then there's very little you can do on your own unfortunately. It all depends on having access to a training partner.

I just had a quick Google and found a bunch of training videos on YouTube for Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, so it does seem possible. Having done a number of martial arts myself I do understand that having a partner does make a massive difference but I've never come across a martial art that doesn't have solo training exercises to enable individuals to practice when alone. Even the martial arts that you wouldn't expect could work solo (like fencing) still have solo training exercises.

Re: Why are some people better at working from home than others?

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I've been working from home for the past 10 years and I don't think I could go back to a regular office. - I can work at my own natural pace whenever I want. Some days I work 4 hours. Some days I work 12 hours until 1-2 am. - If I need to buy something I just do it. I can go to the supermarket at the best times. - I can eat home made food and follow any schedule I wish. My SO also works at home and we're doing interm…

> Some days I work 4 hours. Some days I work 12 hours until 1-2 am. This sounds great, but is really only attainable if you're a freelancer. Unfortunately, this is not an option for many people, especially those just starting out in their careers.

> but is really only attainable if you're a freelancer

Depends. I managed a small remote dev team for a company for a couple of years and we all had our own schedules. This was never really a problem.

Re: Why are some people better at working from home than others?

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post #79

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Like I explained in my previous comment, I work for myself now.

If that explained it, I wouldn't be asking :-) Or do I misunderstand that 'working for yourself' means that you have your own company and you work for customers? If you really just work for "yourself" and nobody pays you (I don't think that's what you mean, but I'm not a native speaker so perhaps I'm missing something) then I understand that you just work as much as you like. But if someone pays you, why would you wo…

"working for myself" means I don't have a contract with a company to exchange a fixed amount of daily hours for money. I do have freelancing clients which I budget per hour but they don't care how and when I work, they just see the results. I'm also building a SaaS so it's up to me how I want to work.

> But if someone pays you, why would you work more time than you get paid for rather than spending that time on a hobby or with family and friends?

If for example I'm working on a 200 hour freelance project I don't spend more time that I got paid. I just do the work at my own pace.

I do spend time doing other activities than working. What do you think I do on those days I only work 4 hours :)

When I was mostly freelancing (now I'm mostly working on my SaaS) I took a couple of days off after finishing each project, sometimes even a 2-3 weeks after big projects.

When I was working as an employee they didn't pay me to work X hours per day. They paid me for results and didn't care how or when I worked either. I admit there were situations where I did give more than what I got paid for, doing things outside my responsibilities, and that was a mistake. I did that because it was an education company I joined with great ideals, not because of the money.

I learned from those years as an employee that I simply don't have an employee mentality. For example I treated my bosses as I treated my clients. As a freelancer or running your own company you're measured by the quality and efficiency of your work so you learn to care about that. Employees around me were trying to work as little as possible and only cared about their paycheck. They didn't care about solving problems or being efficient. For example, there was this programmer (who didn't work for me) that preferred to spend a couple of hours every day doing a manual report instead of automating it and be given more work. Of course he was friends with the IT manager, another person with employee mentality.

Re: Why are some people better at working from home than others?

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> I've started taking so much junk snacks (which wasn't available at Office) What I've found helps is to not buy snacks. I eat junk if it's available, but if nothing is nearby, then I can't be bothered to go out and purchase it, so I'll eat a grapefruit instead. Another thing that I have found helps is to order a community supported agriculture (CSA) produce box. A lot of farmers that supply restaurants are losing a…

> What I've found helps is to not buy snacks. And the main trick to doing that is to not go shopping while hungry. If you are hungry, eat something small before going for groceries, and the temptations will have a lot less power over you.

Before going to shop, write a shopping list at home. When you are at the shop, you can still put something extra in your cart, but generally be in the "I am following the list" mindset, instead of "I am looking around and see if something catches my attention" mindset.

Before writing the shopping list, decide what meals do you want to eat in the following days; then put the ingredients in the list. Otherwise you might end up with too much breakfast stuff, and not enough cooking-material stuff. (Or with cooking-material stuff that you don't know how to put together.)

Before even that... if you are not a skilled cook, you could make a list of all meals you can cook, and put it on your fridge. So when you are out of ideas, just look at the list and pick something you haven't cooked recently. You will get greater variety, and you will keep practicing all you have learned.

Re: Why are some people better at working from home than others?

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Let me caveat the following by saying that I'm one who believes the future of tech work is fully remote and personally hope to stay fully remote post-COVID. I do not believe now is the time to be drawing comparisons or conclusions between the office norm and the fully remote situation most of us have been thrust into. Sure, some people procrastinate more than others. Some people need more management than others to ke…

Yes, it's hard to separate the effects of remote work from the effects of... everything else.

Also the fact that it was a dramatic change overnight, so people can no longer follow their old habits, but didn't have enough time to develop new habits. For example, it is possible to exercise in a gym, and it is also possible to exercise at home, but people who used to exercise regularly in a gym are probably exercising less now, because their habits have been broken.

Not just habits. For example, I have a standing desk at my job, but I didn't have one at home. It took me some time to reorganize my desk, so that I can use the computer comfortably while standing. Then my kids complained, because it was too high for them. It took some time to adapt to the new situation.

Re: Why are some people better at working from home than others?

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I've been a remote worker since before the lockdowns started. My life is more of a mess now because work has become more intense since everyone started working remotely. It would be easy to ignore a single person asking for favor at 8PM but sometimes it's a whole team discussing stuff at night.

Re: Why are some people better at working from home than others?

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post #86

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WFH has been a proper disaster for me. Went from working out 3 days a week to none. Went from 2 meals only a day to stopped counting. Productivity has gone out the window. Man, I used to love my job. I can't wait to run back to my office and have both externally imposed structures and a physical separation of work and fun.

Is that WFH or lockdown related?

It is both. I used to like being able to confine work to work and fun to home. I don't like them both mixing with WFH.

My leisure was climbing, soccer and hanging out with friends...all 3 of which have come to a complete halt.

My room itself is in a terrible location, in that the windows don't face sunlight and face someone else's house. The common spaces are busy, since I live in a group house and don't have a separate study to work in.

I might have been less affected by WFH if I had made the transition more willingly. But, it being imposed on me while I am incredibly underprepared makes it a worse.

Re: Why are some people better at working from home than others?

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post #148
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I was the same until about 5 weeks in, then the isolation got to me and I reverted to food and sleep to manage my emotions and I wiped out all my progress in two weeks. It's important to remember that this is not a normal state of affairs, this doesn't accurately reflect WFH. I'm personally curious ot try WFH more once we return to 'normal'.

Isolation? I think the name "social distancing" isn't a good choice. It should be called physical distancing. Because socially, you can be as close as ever, just use video chat. Whereby, Zoom, Skype, etc. to hang out with groups of people (be it friends, colleagues, etc.)

Video chat isn't the same. I've been using it a lot and it's isolating. There are plenty of studies showing that biologically it's inferior. Also my main hobby is musical theatre, most of which only works in person, so the things that bring me joy in life are all postponed.
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