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Re: Getting Back to Work

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Post by mkagenius »

LudwigNagasena wrote: post #10
KKKKkkkk1 wrote: post #3

Charlie Munger on Elon Musk: “I don’t want my personal life to be [around] a bunch of guys who are living in a state of delusion, who happen occasionally to win big,” Munger told Daily Journal’s shareholders. “I want the prudent person.” https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/19/charlie-munger-ideal-hire-wo...

A guy who consistently founds or joins successful companies is not someone I would call “who happen occasionally to win big”. He founded Zip2 that was acquired by AltaVista, he joined PayPal that was acquired by eBay, he joined Tesla, he founded SpaceX. His record is stellar. Of course it is understandable that Berkshire Hathaway wouldn’t hire anyone like Musk. They are as far from tech and VC as any investor could e…

> I admire Buffet and Munger, but the guys are 90 years old,

Well, then you need to tell me your age, to know whether I should care about what you have written above.

Re: Getting Back to Work

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Post by rdgthree »

KKKKkkkk1 wrote: post #3

Charlie Munger on Elon Musk: “I don’t want my personal life to be [around] a bunch of guys who are living in a state of delusion, who happen occasionally to win big,” Munger told Daily Journal’s shareholders. “I want the prudent person.” https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/19/charlie-munger-ideal-hire-wo...

Taking this quote out of context is impressively dishonest. It would be incredibly inaccurate to describe Elon's history of winning big as "occasional", and for that same reason it would be incredibly surprising if Charlie Munger described Elon's career this way with no qualifiers.

Not surprisingly, he didn't. This quote is the end of a much more nuanced statement to conclude the point that he generally prefers to invest in operators who take less risk.

Regardless of your opinion on Elon, this sort of manipulation of reality damages the discourse. It's not helping anyone.

Re: Getting Back to Work

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Post by techntoke »

mnm1 wrote: post #4

It's obviously essential, critical work to fill up giant parking lots with new cars no one is going to buy. That's a great reason to resume work during the pandemic. I can't believe they even got shut down in the first place. If there aren't at least ten teslas for every American that can't afford them, we have failed as a society.

It looks like you got downvoted. There is a certain group of people that if they catch you outside without a mask or if you say publicly people should return to work, they'll post pictures of you on reddit and advocate for your murder, but as soon as Elon Musk says people should return to work they will immediately defend him because they think he is a God that is faultless.

Re: Getting Back to Work

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Post by 54351623 »

Bold move to extort public officials with threats to move a factory you're attempting to fully automate and a few hundred white collar positions to a state where your main bargaining chip is jobs when you possess less than 5% market share, a vertical monopoly and a luxury product in a crashing market. Excited to see how this one turns out.

Re: Getting Back to Work

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Post by propter_hoc »

Suing the county, really? There's hundreds of thousands, probably millions of businesses that have been shuttered by COVID-19, and yet, of course, who should it be but the constant media circus that is Tesla--whose hit is miniscule compared to the restaurants, hotels and other businesses that actually can't earn revenue--that decides to publicly take it to the courts.

I truly hate to say this, but it really smacks of a solipsistic kind of attitude: that Tesla's problems matter more than other companies', and that anything that gets in its way, whether pandemics, short-sellers or lawmakers, are just an irritant.

Re: Getting Back to Work

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Post by firasd »

I’d like to know what Tesla factory workers think. It’s seeming clear to me from various polls that at most 20% of Americans think ‘oh everything is fine let’s go back to work and school tomorrow.’ So opinions on social distancing are not as polarized as you would think from the media.

Re: Getting Back to Work

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Post by centimeter »

propter_hoc wrote: post #16

Suing the county, really? There's hundreds of thousands, probably millions of businesses that have been shuttered by COVID-19, and yet, of course, who should it be but the constant media circus that is Tesla--whose hit is miniscule compared to the restaurants, hotels and other businesses that actually can't earn revenue--that decides to publicly take it to the courts. I truly hate to say this, but it really smacks of…

Most businesses aren't in a position to sue the county. If Tesla sues and wins, those other businesses will benefit as well. I'm not sure what you're objecting to here.

Re: Getting Back to Work

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Post by centimeter »

KKKKkkkk1 wrote: post #3

Charlie Munger on Elon Musk: “I don’t want my personal life to be [around] a bunch of guys who are living in a state of delusion, who happen occasionally to win big,” Munger told Daily Journal’s shareholders. “I want the prudent person.” https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/19/charlie-munger-ideal-hire-wo...

> a bunch of guys who are living in a state of delusion

Sounds like the politicians and assorted apparatchiks who still think, or claim to think, that this virus is orders of magnitude worse than it actually is.

Re: Getting Back to Work

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Post by alex-wallish »

propter_hoc wrote: post #16

Suing the county, really? There's hundreds of thousands, probably millions of businesses that have been shuttered by COVID-19, and yet, of course, who should it be but the constant media circus that is Tesla--whose hit is miniscule compared to the restaurants, hotels and other businesses that actually can't earn revenue--that decides to publicly take it to the courts. I truly hate to say this, but it really smacks of…

If those other business were classified as essential by the state and ordered to remain open, but then the county ordered them closed, they absolutely should sue the county as well. Unfortunately they probably don’t have the same legal resources as Tesla does. If Tesla wins this case it could be beneficial for other businesses as well.
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