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Many ways where GCP excels over AWS

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Re: Many ways where GCP excels over AWS

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The GCP LB is, honestly, one of the most impressive pieces of software ever written and unmatched by any other provider.

I could not agree more. Having fixed private IPs on AWS is a pain. Looking for AnyCast solutions in AWS is not clear to me.

Also I enjoy that GCP has gRPC support.

Re: Many ways where GCP excels over AWS

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sure. the AWS console has been very hard to use since forever. Some may even go as far as saying that it improved. The UX is not the selling point of a cloud provider.

disagree. I get the sentiment that in the long run an end-user absolutely "shouldn't care", because the infrastructure should be code, if the initial end user onramp sucks (bad UX) then it might give you a negative impression of the system. This impacts other end users, because if adoption has a negative first derivative, you could be in trouble in the long run. but UX goes beyond just clicky bits on the web. It's al…

i don’t disagree with your points. ux is more than ui. and it’s definitely harder nowadays to learn about the cloud than it was 5 years ago.

Re: Many ways where GCP excels over AWS

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Both AWS and GCP excel over Azure. Many organizations are strong armed into using Azure as part of their Enterprise Agreements (EA) as part of Microsoft's predatory tactics (they haven't changed one bit) I couldn't imagine someone choosing to use Azure if given a choice.

Then you’re rather unimaginative - .NET/SqlServer shops are still 2nd class citizens on both GCP and AWS.

Azure App Services and SQL database arrives a 1-2 punch for enterprises moving their apps to a PaaS that just works.

Re: Many ways where GCP excels over AWS

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Both AWS and GCP excel over Azure. Many organizations are strong armed into using Azure as part of their Enterprise Agreements (EA) as part of Microsoft's predatory tactics (they haven't changed one bit) I couldn't imagine someone choosing to use Azure if given a choice.

Agreed, I was forced into using it years ago and still have PTSD from how awful it is. API endpoints randomly return with 500s, block devices hang or just become disconnected, provisioning is extremely slow. The unquantifiable "just works" and general care & polish is missing.

Re: Many ways where GCP excels over AWS

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I think a lot of the issues with AWS mentioned here are mainly the result of 2 factors: 1. AWS having been around longer, and having been vastly bigger and more widely used than GCP for the entire lifespan of both products. AWS is just more expansive/evolved from having piled on more features for more customers over more time. 2. AWS virtually never makes backward-incompatible changes. Every feature of every service…

Google's free consumer-facing products with no SLA being shut down... HN loves to complain about this. Any time there's a thread about Google, someone has to complain about the time when they shut down Reader.

Re: Many ways where GCP excels over AWS

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I think a lot of the issues with AWS mentioned here are mainly the result of 2 factors: 1. AWS having been around longer, and having been vastly bigger and more widely used than GCP for the entire lifespan of both products. AWS is just more expansive/evolved from having piled on more features for more customers over more time. 2. AWS virtually never makes backward-incompatible changes. Every feature of every service…

Has Google EOL any Cloud products? I don't remember any being shutdown recently at least. Since these are money-making products (unlike maybe other good customer-facing products), there's a lot less reasons to shut things down IMO

yes... albeit its an odd one.. a few months after the switch out from Diane to Thomas on lead exec.. they shutdown google hire which was in the gcp portfolio https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/28/20837004/google-hire-next...

afaics its called cloud talent in the console now

Re: Many ways where GCP excels over AWS

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As someone that works solely in a GCP environment for work, I couldn't agree more. GCP products do "just work", but if I had to nitpick, it's that some of their services don't have complete terraform modules (looking at you IAP), but outside of that, their pricing is reasonable, documentation is solid, and we're really happy we ended up going the GCP route.

As someone who just dealt with the questionable state of the gcp docs, I couldn't disagree more, afaics there's really no qa on this stuff. to wit, the official docs for turning on storage bucket uniform access are a missing a parameter, that we only found after turning on http tracing on gsutil. The docs themselves are very spread out, and frequently have errors or inconsistencies (ie use beta v1 of this, v1 of that, and alpha v1 for different resources in the same service). Unlike aws or azure, none of the actual api specs (json data) or even the official cli implementation is in a public repo. For python alone, googlers maintain like 4 different implementations of the api, 'nough said.

Re: Many ways where GCP excels over AWS

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I don't think the author actually has used AWS extensively or in recent times because almost the whole section on EKS is wrong or out of date.

Just this week I updated an EKS cluster from 1.15 to 1.16 with two clicks.

Re: Many ways where GCP excels over AWS

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Imagine you running large database workload and AWS say you need reboot because underlying hardware start having issue. Live migration can help you in that case.

1. use RDS 2. if you want to run your own you’d better know how HA setups work and you can lose at least a machine at ANY point in time (not just when AWS warns you the hardware is failing)

RDS is a joke unless you use aurora. Necessary downtime for a database upgrade? Try again Amazon.
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