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Re: We Are Trying Out PeerTube

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Post by azangru »

Spivak wrote: post #3

I mean good for them diversifying but it’s such a weird thing that of all the stuff to complain about on YT they go out of their way to mention having to tag videos as appropriate for children and/or for children. Like surely that’s such a tiny thing. It seems like the author is trying to muster up some nondescript hate for YT when they were going to move for ideological reasons anyway.

I wish there were a checkbox in account settings somewhere by ticking which you would essentially say, "I do not record videos for kids, just stop asking me already".

Re: We Are Trying Out PeerTube

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Post by FalconSensei »

olah_1 wrote: post #7

The problem for the Fediverse will always be domains, in my opinion. It sounds silly to the technical demographic, but to a normal person, it is a massive issue. "Which server do I choose to get in bed with?" It's not just a question of which server do you trust to be a good actor and to not shut down tomorrow. It's also a question of which domain name do you want associated with your user account? Do you want alice@…

THIS!

Also, if someone asks me for my YT channel, I just say the channel name and they know where to look, youtube.com.

With peertube you have to: give your channel name, remember then it's NOT youtube, tall then the correct instance, hope they won't type peertube on google and try to search for you in the first instance that comes up.

Re: We Are Trying Out PeerTube

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Post by FalconSensei »

encom wrote: post #8
olah_1 wrote: post #7

The problem for the Fediverse will always be domains, in my opinion. It sounds silly to the technical demographic, but to a normal person, it is a massive issue. "Which server do I choose to get in bed with?" It's not just a question of which server do you trust to be a good actor and to not shut down tomorrow. It's also a question of which domain name do you want associated with your user account? Do you want alice@…

>When I sign up for gmail, I can just be myself. I don't have to be myself + something else. I don't understand this sentence. What is the "something else" here that Gmail uniquely lacks?

When someone asks your email, you say 'myemailhandle' and they will already ask if it's gmail. Way easier to speak and remember than if you have your own domain.

Re: We Are Trying Out PeerTube

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Post by detaro »

olah_1 wrote: post #7

The problem for the Fediverse will always be domains, in my opinion. It sounds silly to the technical demographic, but to a normal person, it is a massive issue. "Which server do I choose to get in bed with?" It's not just a question of which server do you trust to be a good actor and to not shut down tomorrow. It's also a question of which domain name do you want associated with your user account? Do you want alice@…

How is @gmail.com different than any other @domain.com?

Re: We Are Trying Out PeerTube

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Post by toomuchtodo »

FalconSensei wrote: post #12
olah_1 wrote: post #7

The problem for the Fediverse will always be domains, in my opinion. It sounds silly to the technical demographic, but to a normal person, it is a massive issue. "Which server do I choose to get in bed with?" It's not just a question of which server do you trust to be a good actor and to not shut down tomorrow. It's also a question of which domain name do you want associated with your user account? Do you want alice@…

THIS! Also, if someone asks me for my YT channel, I just say the channel name and they know where to look, youtube.com. With peertube you have to: give your channel name, remember then it's NOT youtube, tall then the correct instance, hope they won't type peertube on google and try to search for you in the first instance that comes up.

How would you suggest we improve on this?

Re: We Are Trying Out PeerTube

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Post by olah_1 »

encom wrote: post #8
olah_1 wrote: post #7

The problem for the Fediverse will always be domains, in my opinion. It sounds silly to the technical demographic, but to a normal person, it is a massive issue. "Which server do I choose to get in bed with?" It's not just a question of which server do you trust to be a good actor and to not shut down tomorrow. It's also a question of which domain name do you want associated with your user account? Do you want alice@…

>When I sign up for gmail, I can just be myself. I don't have to be myself + something else. I don't understand this sentence. What is the "something else" here that Gmail uniquely lacks?

> What is the "something else" here that Gmail uniquely lacks?

The unique domain that I would otherwise have to associate myself with. "gmail" is so ubiquitous that it just doesn't mean anything anymore. It's just... the protocol.

Tell someone that your email is "alice@alice.website" and even _that_ is saying something significant about yourself that you may not want to say.

A big aspect of appearing "cool" is not letting on that you care so much. Social networks and messaging systems should allow people to be "cool" if they want to be.

Re: We Are Trying Out PeerTube

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Post by detaro »

Spivak wrote: post #3

I mean good for them diversifying but it’s such a weird thing that of all the stuff to complain about on YT they go out of their way to mention having to tag videos as appropriate for children and/or for children. Like surely that’s such a tiny thing. It seems like the author is trying to muster up some nondescript hate for YT when they were going to move for ideological reasons anyway.

The "appropriate for kids" thing has caused a lot of concern for youtubers due to how relatively heavy-handed it is.

Re: We Are Trying Out PeerTube

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Post by qiqitori »

First video played well (at reduced quality, 480p), with 6 peers. The other videos seemed to just have a single peer, and it seems like I had bad peering with that person/server, so everything was pretty much unplayable.

Would be cool if there were a way to add peers from the command line. Then I could add a server or two with better peering and maybe be able to watch stuff.

Re: We Are Trying Out PeerTube

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Post by encom »

olah_1 wrote: post #16
encom wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>When I sign up for gmail, I can just be myself. I don't have to be myself + something else. I don't understand this sentence. What is the "something else" here that Gmail uniquely lacks?

> What is the "something else" here that Gmail uniquely lacks? The unique domain that I would otherwise have to associate myself with. "gmail" is so ubiquitous that it just doesn't mean anything anymore. It's just... the protocol. Tell someone that your email is "alice@alice.website" and even _that_ is saying something significant about yourself that you may not want to say. A big aspect of appearing "cool" is not le…

What @gmail.com says to me, is that the user is okay with Google reading their email.

Re: We Are Trying Out PeerTube

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Post by superkuh »

ludamad wrote: post #6
Spivak wrote: post #3

I mean good for them diversifying but it’s such a weird thing that of all the stuff to complain about on YT they go out of their way to mention having to tag videos as appropriate for children and/or for children. Like surely that’s such a tiny thing. It seems like the author is trying to muster up some nondescript hate for YT when they were going to move for ideological reasons anyway.

Right, it's essentially ragging on a complete product. No one would say, come to peertube, where you have no idea what is meant for your child!

That actually sounds like good advertising to me. Allowing children to join ruins everything. Not because of the children but because parents cannot think rationally about their "safety" (as if you can be hurt over the 'net). They're neurologically hardwired to be biased and prioritize perceived safety over all other issues. This leads to crazy commercial policies re: children that effect everyone (and even worse laws).
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