Bitrated is an interesting alternative for identity/reputation validation - wot based: https://www.bitrated.com
Ask HN: Keybase Alternatives?
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#212Scuttlebutt is an open source p2p gossip network (no central servers) that includes clients that implement chat, blogging, git and github replacements, Shamir's Secret sharing (splitting up a secret by encrypting it so that a number of your friends are needed to decrypt, via Dark Crystal [ https://darkcrystal.pw/] ), games and probably more that I am forgetting. You could easily place your public keys in your user pr…
I tried looking up Dark Crystal, but the link doesn't work and neither does search results. Do you have any more into?
Re: Ask HN: Keybase Alternatives?
#213> I myself mostly use the following features from Keybase: Chat, KBFS, Git repositories and encrypting messages sent out-of-band via PGP in Keybase (and the various cryptographic tools [signing, validation etc]) While all these features are individually nice, I kinda started to worry about Keybase as a product when they started bolting on stuff like this. I think the key (pun intended) to stable & ongoing success in…
I feel like they were making a general secure E2E 'corporate team software' kit, with a focus on software dev. Storage, chat, git, etc. But then they forgot to charge money :( For corps especially, they want to be able to pay money so they can get support and SLAs. But keybase files have always had somewhat bad performance and undefined storage limits, so you couldn't rely on it as a company. It was always the bigges…
Agreed. I was really impressed with the software quality for an all-FOSS team, but it wasn't quite good enough for enterprise, and without charging money it won't ever happen.
I wonder what if any features besides for the core crypto code Zoom will try to adapt. They are after all a rapidly growing enterprise app and I could see chat or file sharing being added.
Re: Ask HN: Keybase Alternatives?
#214Since nobody's mentioned Wire, it's not a 1:1 alternative but it's close in terms of chat. I don't think any 1:1 alternative to KeyBase will rise up anytime soon, hosting git and files will be a bit to build up to. Website: https://wire.com/en/ Their backend is open source unlike KeyBase: https://github.com/wireapp/wire-server
I used it a few years ago and I thought the US was pretty good on iOS at least.
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
Zoom is not a Chinese company. The founder merely was born in China. He is US citizen. I am very put off by this anti-China rhetoric. Everything that even has a remote connection to China is now under suspicion. This is madness.
Errr what? Their development team is entirely based out of China. Please, spare me the rubbish about anti-China rhetoric. This has nothing to do with the Chinese people or culture. I clarified that this is for local _government_ clients. It absolutely matters, whether you get offended or not. I also mentioned that my company is a Zoom customer and this move generally has me happy. We had the same conversation about R…
If you want to clarify that that's not where you're coming from, aggressive swipes like "please spare me the rubbish" have to go. It's against the HN guidelines to post like that, so please edit it out in the future.
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#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
Zoom is not a Chinese company. The founder merely was born in China. He is US citizen. I am very put off by this anti-China rhetoric. Everything that even has a remote connection to China is now under suspicion. This is madness.
C'mon: Hong Kong, persecution of Uighurs and Falun Gong and political prisoners and artists and journalists and anyone who talks about Taiwan or the Tienanmen Square Massacre, IP theft, cyber attacks, political aggression in the South China Sea ("Nine-Dash Line"), not to mention trying to expend their censorship apparatus internationally!
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#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The threats are not theoretical, as I've found out recently. A big threat comes from... The US. The US regularly stages coups against governmentd they don't like. Even democratic governments. Democratic Iran in the 60s. And just now, Venezuela. Part of the reason why the CCP top leadership is so secretive, and why they are msking society more controlling, to to protect against US lead coups. Yeah if you wonder why…
Stop trying to justify genocide.
Is there really a genocide going on? Forced reeducation, yes. But killing? https://thegrayzone.com/2019/12/21/china-detaining-millions-...
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is an alternative perspective wrt what generates legitimacy. It is improving people's livelihood. Food, health, security, education, economic prosperity. Given the huge number of low income people in China, China is still very much a developing country. And China HAS made lots of progress in those fronts, much more than any other country. As for disallowing criticism: nowadays it's not as bad as you think. Chec…
> As for disallowing criticism: nowadays it's not as bad as you think. I don’t have to try a dozen VPNs to read western news outlets anymore?
It's not as good as the west, censorship exists. But gone are the days where your neighbors report you for every little thing you may say wrong. You can file complaints against the government, and they do look into those without punishing you. You can even file lawsuits against the government (admittedly, not very effect yet, with a success rate of 30%, but not nothing).
Does China have problems? Yes, many. But my point is rather that it's not the hellhole many people think it is.
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#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is an alternative perspective wrt what generates legitimacy. It is improving people's livelihood. Food, health, security, education, economic prosperity. Given the huge number of low income people in China, China is still very much a developing country. And China HAS made lots of progress in those fronts, much more than any other country. As for disallowing criticism: nowadays it's not as bad as you think. Chec…
Why should this progress in economic development be enough to make it legitimate? I mean, even if we assumed that the end justifies the means and that all that matters is economic prosperity, they didn't even have to do a lot of things right -just less badly than before (which admittedly wasn't that hard when someone looks at how bad they were). And if this progress happened to coincide with loosening up the restrict…
There is no proof that your latter claim is true. South Korea, Singapore and Taiwan were all authoritarian before they got economically prosperous. Only after that did they become democratic.
The states in the middle east, which had democracy forced upon them, aren't doing that well either.
It takes a while to get there, and not all stages of development of a country is a good match for democracy.
And you say that it is not that hard to do things less badly than before. I disagree. The CCP is literally the first functional and competent government they've had in 150 years. I think you are massively underestimating how difficult it is to develop China.
I am not saying economic concerns should forever be their number one priority. At some point that has to change. But is democracy really the best path for China right now? Do they deserve no credit for what they have already achieved?