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The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance

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Re: The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance

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Post by throwawaylolx »

perfunctory wrote: post #10

Climate related reports are getting scarier by the day. I am scared. Really scared. Everyone should be. If I may, let me make a little plea. May I remind everyone that we are not a mere spectators of the show. We are active participants. We can influence things. We as in you and I, HN crowd. It may not seem like it, but an average HN reader has a non-trivial amount of influence. And not only in financial sense. Pleas…

>I am scared. Really scared.

May be from reading too many scare-mongering alarmist articles like the one in OP where the usual quantitative terms that are supposed to be present in the abstract are replaced with "much lower", "serious health and productivity impacts", "dangerously high", "serious challenge", etc.

Re: The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance

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Post by alt_f4 »

kharak wrote: post #14

Personal anectode. I already can't bear summer. I don't have AC, as most people don't have it here in Switzerland. Even offices tend to not have them. There are 1 to 2 months a year where my productivity sinks, enjoyment of life plummets and I just want it all to be over. I also barely see any snow anymore, if I don't hike in the mountains. I love snow. The change is real and I hate it. Couldn't it be global cooling…

You live in an extremely rich country, surely you can afford to install an AC unit if it impacts you as much as you're saying.

Seems like that has a much better shot at solving your problem than waiting for the world to address global climate change.

Re: The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance

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Post by k33n »

Most of these models will be proven inaccurate. If there’s anything “climate scientists” have demonstrated over the past 100 years or so, it’s that they have little to no understanding of the global climate. Have any of their “predictions” aged well?

Re: The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance

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Post by SamReidHughes »

perfunctory wrote: post #10

Climate related reports are getting scarier by the day. I am scared. Really scared. Everyone should be. If I may, let me make a little plea. May I remind everyone that we are not a mere spectators of the show. We are active participants. We can influence things. We as in you and I, HN crowd. It may not seem like it, but an average HN reader has a non-trivial amount of influence. And not only in financial sense. Pleas…

> I am scared. Really scared. Everyone should be.

This is a statement about your mental health, not one about reality. Barring a badly-timed war, the global standard of living in 2100 will be much better than today’s. Even if global warming causes 10% less increase in GDP, as some modeling conservatively predicts.

If you want something to freak out about, I’d recommend nuclear war, the next AIDS-like virus, drone terrorism, and the casual destruction of human prosperity caused by housing policies.

Re: The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance

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Post by jajag »

k33n wrote: post #23

Most of these models will be proven inaccurate. If there’s anything “climate scientists” have demonstrated over the past 100 years or so, it’s that they have little to no understanding of the global climate. Have any of their “predictions” aged well?

> Have any of their “predictions” aged well?

No, but only in the sense that they've tended to be too conservative and to understate the degree and pace of change.

And just to be clear, the paper linked to is a review of weather station data which finds that extreme heat & humidity conditions are occurring sooner and more frequently than models predicted.

Re: The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance

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Post by gswdh »

alt_f4 wrote: post #22
kharak wrote: post #14

Personal anectode. I already can't bear summer. I don't have AC, as most people don't have it here in Switzerland. Even offices tend to not have them. There are 1 to 2 months a year where my productivity sinks, enjoyment of life plummets and I just want it all to be over. I also barely see any snow anymore, if I don't hike in the mountains. I love snow. The change is real and I hate it. Couldn't it be global cooling…

You live in an extremely rich country, surely you can afford to install an AC unit if it impacts you as much as you're saying. Seems like that has a much better shot at solving your problem than waiting for the world to address global climate change.

I’m in the UK and we often have the same problem (a month or two in the summer of unbearable heat) but most companies refuse to spend just for those one/two months.

Re: The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance

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Post by mirimir »

chris1993 wrote: post #15
finolex1 wrote: post #13

Color me optimistic, but we'll learn to survive and adapt. Humans in temperate climates (Chicago, Toronto, etc.) already live in places where it's too cold to survive outside for long in winter. Just replace heaters with ACs in this case.

For people who can afford AC and won't be able to go outside

There'll likely be refrigerated suits.

Re: The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance

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Post by _nalply »

alt_f4 wrote: post #22
kharak wrote: post #14

Personal anectode. I already can't bear summer. I don't have AC, as most people don't have it here in Switzerland. Even offices tend to not have them. There are 1 to 2 months a year where my productivity sinks, enjoyment of life plummets and I just want it all to be over. I also barely see any snow anymore, if I don't hike in the mountains. I love snow. The change is real and I hate it. Couldn't it be global cooling…

You live in an extremely rich country, surely you can afford to install an AC unit if it impacts you as much as you're saying. Seems like that has a much better shot at solving your problem than waiting for the world to address global climate change.

You don't understand Switzerland. More people rent in Switzerland than elsewhere. Switzerland also has an oceanic climate and usually doesn't have hot summers. AC units aren't a thing in Switzerland, however this is changing slowly.

Re: The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance

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Post by ornornor »

alt_f4 wrote: post #22
kharak wrote: post #14

Personal anectode. I already can't bear summer. I don't have AC, as most people don't have it here in Switzerland. Even offices tend to not have them. There are 1 to 2 months a year where my productivity sinks, enjoyment of life plummets and I just want it all to be over. I also barely see any snow anymore, if I don't hike in the mountains. I love snow. The change is real and I hate it. Couldn't it be global cooling…

You live in an extremely rich country, surely you can afford to install an AC unit if it impacts you as much as you're saying. Seems like that has a much better shot at solving your problem than waiting for the world to address global climate change.

Electricity is pricey here, and it can be tough to negotiate with your landlord to take the window out and properly secure an ac unit.

Besides, offices, shopping malls, gorvernment buildings... none of them usually have ac.

I hate walking in my town‘s Rathaus it’s always so hot and stuffy in there. I don’t know how the people working there real with it all summer long. And it’s a brand new building too.

Re: The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance

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Post by LifeLiverTransp »

johnchristopher wrote: post #5
gonzo41 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now is the time to buy a flat-ish block of land in Alaska or Tasmania that's a little back from the waters edge. Also make sure you don't have too many tree's too close to where you want to build your doomsday cabin. :) Really you don't be between the tropics of Cancer of Capricorn. in the future

When I think about such scenarios I can't help thinking that there might not be any social constructs left to enforce ownership of land :/. When I was a teen I was sure we were headed for a bad future if we didn't act but I always thought it'd come after I am dead. Now I am scared I am going to be old and too frail to manage when life on earth will turn sour. edit: maybe it's time we put out a a Pioneer 10 plate with…

Lets make it a decent grave candle. A Lighttower in space. We start with something like hubble, capable to percieve planets by observation.

We put the message into a laser encoded and shine it on planets in habitable zones of diffrent star systems, tracking the planet.

If all works right, there should be giant discs of flickering light, racing with rotation speed over cloudy sky, broadcasting our history and warning.

The ufos were we all along.

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