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Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

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Re: Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

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> Ubuntu’s overall share of operating system usage ballooned from 0.27% in March to 1.89% in April. This is when a new version of Ubuntu was released. Since it's measured by web visits, this could be a bunch of people installing 20.04 in a VM and checking it out

Yep, can confirm, did this.

Re: Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

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Windows will become an emulation layer in Linux. Why? Microsoft makes most money from cloud subscriptions.

Microsoft already develops and ships an emulation layer for Windows on Linux; SQL Server for Linux is built on it.

Wait what? There's an official Microsoft-sanctioned version of Wine?

Is this obtainable standalone in any form?

Re: Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

#33
Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) allows Windows users to install a Linux distro (several downloadable from the Windows Store) and WSL 2 (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-index) recently arrived. There's mad bit of satisfaction in being able to do this and it's useful. I was able to work on a Python/Linux stack project and other developers on the team were using WSL too. You can even open a WSL terminal in VS Code.

Re: Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft already develops and ships an emulation layer for Windows on Linux; SQL Server for Linux is built on it.

Wait what? There's an official Microsoft-sanctioned version of Wine? Is this obtainable standalone in any form?

I don't think so, and it's not really a "version of Wine" since I don't think it has any support for GUI apps.

Re: Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

#35

> Ubuntu’s overall share of operating system usage ballooned from 0.27% in March to 1.89% in April. This is when a new version of Ubuntu was released. Since it's measured by web visits, this could be a bunch of people installing 20.04 in a VM and checking it out

did exactly this

Re: Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

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Ubuntu is becoming more and more suitable for normal users. Most of the work is done in web browsers these days. I do ubuntu minimal installation and almost everything works out of box. More people would be using if laptop makers start giving ubuntu as default option.

You still get weird gotchas. My wife wanted to install Microsoft Teams to talk to our doctor. She got the the Linux download page then asked “should I download the .rpm or the .deb?”. Luckily I was there to tell her. Then she installed it like a champ and got it working, so that was nice. But there’s no way she’d have just “known” this, and it’s just another hurdle to non technical users. Why should you have to know…

I mean, this is why snaps are a thing, despite their scrutiny

Re: Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

#37
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Is 2020 the year of the Linux desktop?

No, and it never will be until: Open source creative and professional tools are on par with proprietary tools (MS Office, Adobe) in terms of function and UI, GUI applications are written for every conceivable setting a non-technical user would need, Gaming is easier (it's getting better) And, Ubuntu, Mint and other popular distros streamline everything even more so that even an idiot (and lots of people are idiots wh…

TBH we don't require open source desktop software equivalents to popular windows stuff, just good enough web based software. I don't think Adobe is #1 in their market anymore, there's a lot of competition from things like Figma. Same with office, we use Google Drive and so I feel like it should easier than ever to switch!

Re: Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

#38

People can't go to work and log in, ergo, a noticeable drop in Windows 10 usage, because Windows is used by a lot of people at work. But, since we are looking at relative market shares, that means every other OS' share goes up, even if the actual number of users remains almost the same. (And the article points this out at the end.) This will be followed by each of those OSs seeing massive drops in relative market sha…

If all companies stopped using Microsoft Word / PowerPoint / Excel and switched to open source I bet you’d see a 60% decline in Windows desktop use at least. Office software compatibility is the golden handcuffs of corporate Desktop OSes.

Re: Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

#39
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Ubuntu is becoming more and more suitable for normal users. Most of the work is done in web browsers these days. I do ubuntu minimal installation and almost everything works out of box. More people would be using if laptop makers start giving ubuntu as default option.

What do you mean by "normal users"? For my parents it's simpler to go with OSX. For working on print, Inkscape and Gimp pale in comparision with adobe's suite. Not to mention sharing files with the "de facto market standards" world . For working on audiovisuals, no cigar. For working on development, well, none of my external hardware was supported (my last experience was Ubuntu 18+) but ok, the IDE worked. In any cas…

Inkscape: For professional print I can't answer (never had to use CMYK), but Inkscape works well enough for 99% of people who need it IMO (web developers, logo designers, CNC/Milling)

Gimp: Agree, most features are there but finding them is a chore

File sharing: Illustrator uses .ai files which are .pdf (compatible with inkscape), can't speak about .psd compatibility with Gimp, never tried it

Audiovisual: DaVinci Resolve is awesome, and adequate for most if not all home users

Development: I'm assuming you mean embedded development, this relies on support from the vendor, community can't do much about this. Most development are not embedded developers, and in my experience boards by SiLabs worked pretty much out of the box. Obviously anything web (except ASP I guess, I may be wrong) is a breeze on Linux

Regardless, the normal user needs none of this. They need a web browser and an office suite. The Linux ecosystem needs a more intuitive office suite, but libreoffice is good enough and Google Docs/Office365 online work for many people too

Re: Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why on earth would someone talk to their doctor with such a product?

Because most doctor visits right now are “telehealth” visits and as a patient you have zero say as to what platform your doctor chooses to use.

My experience is that people will be happy to use other things if you just ask them to, and have a ready-to-go solution on hand.

Just say "teams doesn't work well on my computer, it's very poorly made. Can we use jitsimeet? It's much easier for me." and them drop them a jitsi link without waiting for their response.

Teams is the official video chat at my company, I've been successfully ignoring that for more than 2 months now. At this stage, jitsi usage is starting to spread to other teams.

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