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Re: Show HN: Twitch Roulette – Find and chat with streamers who are streaming alone

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Post by arkitaip »

raziel2p wrote: post #123
slashink wrote: post #68

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Hello! I work on the video platform @ twitch. We’ve been working a lot on that issue. Viewer count numbers should be significantly faster today and will get even more responsive soon!

As a viewer I'm not sure I'd like this happening but for smaller streamers, a notification/message telling you that a viewer has joined or left might be useful.

Please don't. I would avoid certain stream if I knew they were told that I've joined/left because I do that quite frequently without saying anything and don't want to come across as an asshole.

Re: Show HN: Twitch Roulette – Find and chat with streamers who are streaming alone

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Post by arkitaip »

macspoofing wrote: post #118
heed wrote: post #89

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That’s because discovery on Twitch is almost non-existent. If you want to grow your Twitch channel start on YouTube, advertise your twitch channel there, and slowly try to convert people.

It's not an issue of discovery. There's just too much out there. No matter what algorithm you choose, you will leave out the vast majority of other streamers. And YouTube isn't any better. In fact, it's going through its own mini-drama with even established YouTubers seeing their subscription counts going down and blaming YouTube for it, when in reality, there are just too many people creating content.

It really is about discoverability, though.

On Youtube, everything is about producing enticing videos and if you do a great job, the algo will favor you even if you are a small channel. Youtube search plays an important part in all of this.

On Twitch, the unit of interest is the live stream and that is much more difficult to produce content around. It also makes finding interesting streams challenging because search doesn't work well with this type of content. Heck, you can't even query the directory for basic stuff like [show me streamers living in Sweden who usually stream GTA 5 RP].

Re: Show HN: Twitch Roulette – Find and chat with streamers who are streaming alone

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Post by tomlagier »

fenwick67 wrote: post #94
lovehashbrowns wrote: post #90

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How are you going to question a Twitch employee but not someone making the absurd claim that "most of the big streamers got to where they are by view botting"? The bigger streamers that weren't already famous have had followings for many years, going from few viewers to the thousands they get now. Saying most of them view botted is pretty wild. I'd love to see some actual evidence..

Buying follows is an open secret on Twitter and Instagram, and I personally had my twitch credentials stuffed to have my account follow accounts with 1 video and thousands of followers

And were any of those accounts that you followed "big streamers"?

The fact that botting exists does not mean that's how most big streamers got started.

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Post by lovehashbrowns »

fenwick67 wrote: post #94
lovehashbrowns wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are you going to question a Twitch employee but not someone making the absurd claim that "most of the big streamers got to where they are by view botting"? The bigger streamers that weren't already famous have had followings for many years, going from few viewers to the thousands they get now. Saying most of them view botted is pretty wild. I'd love to see some actual evidence..

Buying follows is an open secret on Twitter and Instagram, and I personally had my twitch credentials stuffed to have my account follow accounts with 1 video and thousands of followers

This is not like Twitter or Instagram where you get things or clout purely on your follower numbers. Twitch has viewer counts during a livestream, and it's easy to tell botted accounts or inflated viewer counts based on chat participation. It's relatively easy to spot inflated viewer counts when there are 1,000 viewers on a channel but very few comments in the chat, for example.

And most streamers have a long history of streaming. For example, some of the bigger ones I can think of, Reckful, Destiny, Lirik, Alinity, Tyler1, Day9, etc.

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Post by ubercow13 »

zankly wrote: post #114
MilnerRoute wrote: post #48

Singer Ben Folds once did this during a huge concert. So random people looking for a video chat would suddenly see a man on a stage in front of a huge audience...singing a song about them. ("Hello Mr. Shirtless Man. How are you doin' today? Is it hot in there...?") https://www.pigdog.org/auto/viva_la_musica/link/3203.html

I feel that this is a violation of trust. A lot of users are there to talk to another person, they're not necessarily ready or willing to be shirtless in front of tens of thousands of people. If I was on a jury and there was a lawsuit, I would award damages.

What would the lawsuit be for?

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Post by kart23 »

formalsystem wrote: post #45

twitch is one of the platforms where I feel like I've struggled the most to get viewers. just playing my main game like Dota wasn't too productive since I'm not a pro or super hot so my value proposition there isn't too compelling. Instead I've been trying to focus more on streaming myself programming and learning new scientific or game programming libraries and have been enjoying it quite a bit. My viewer count is v…

Yes, starting off with your friends just being in chat is very useful. Itll attract more people, and if you show that you have a good little community, then they will stay, bringing more people.

Re: Show HN: Twitch Roulette – Find and chat with streamers who are streaming alone

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Post by strombofulous »

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #95
beshrkayali wrote: post #86

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the question is, would it be possible to implement something like that in a way where dong shows don't take over? What is it exactly that turned chat roulette into that?

* would it be possible to implement something like that in a way where dong shows don't take over? * Having an option to mark yourself as NSFW, and to decide if you want to see NSFW cams would go a long way.

IIRC they had this and only guys used it (because only guys were naked on chatroulette to begin with) so nobody used it.

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Post by chipperyman573 »

thatcat wrote: post #109
beshrkayali wrote: post #86

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the question is, would it be possible to implement something like that in a way where dong shows don't take over? What is it exactly that turned chat roulette into that?

Yea, discord can detect dicks. I'm guessing that the hotdog/no hotdog algorithm is advanced enough by now.

Really? I've never been in a group where one is sent, does it block it or just mark it as NSFW?
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