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Re: A Map of the Trees of London

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Post by avianlyric » Thu, May 07, 2020, 10:04 PM UTC

renewiltord wrote: post #89

avianlyric wrote: post #87

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I don’t think anyone is claiming the UK hasn’t got its fair share of cleaning up todo. But that doesn’t change the fact that CA and the US is equally, if not more, guilty. It’s not like the US opted out of the industrial revolution, or the subsequent oil based economy. The vast majority (~70%) of total human Co2 emissions happened after 1960. Since the 1960 the US has been the largest Co2 emitter until ~2000 when Chi…

In CO2 tons / sanctimony unit they certainly are the leaders. I'll gladly amend my position to condemn the US too, but the UK and the EU are on no high horse. Merely pumping out masses of people is no defence for blotting the Earth with their slime.

I think you need to take a chill pill, and maybe reconsider some of those racist views you seem to be cultivating there. They’re make you look like a rather ugly individual.

Re: A Map of the Trees of London

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Post by renewiltord » Mon, May 11, 2020, 7:00 AM UTC

alimw wrote: post #69

renewiltord wrote: post #52

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Indeed, but more people isn't good for its own sake. Lest we forget, California produces almost as much in its economy as the UK does with 2/3rds the people. We are more forested, we are more people-efficient, we are just as power-efficient, our energy comes form just as good sources. They need to step up. Our conditions here will not last forever and it is time for them to reforest, and pay the debt they owe the Ear…

Well you're right, we just need to get rid of half the people then we can start working on that. What do you suggest we do with them?

You can't kill people. I simply propose that we move costs back on to consumers. So, like I do, make everyone pay for the carbon they produce. Stagger it so that they overpay by some amount and let the countries that haven't yet polluted underpay. It'll be a small factor, some 10x or so.

For my life that'll be around $4k extra in costs per year. If someone already lives a very carbon neutral lifestyle then it'll be much less. If they fly a lot more it'll be a lot more.

Re: A Map of the Trees of London

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Post by renewiltord » Mon, May 11, 2020, 7:03 AM UTC

avianlyric wrote: post #91

renewiltord wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In CO2 tons / sanctimony unit they certainly are the leaders. I'll gladly amend my position to condemn the US too, but the UK and the EU are on no high horse. Merely pumping out masses of people is no defence for blotting the Earth with their slime.

I think you need to take a chill pill, and maybe reconsider some of those racist views you seem to be cultivating there. They’re make you look like a rather ugly individual.

It's pretty typical of apologists to pull this tone policing. Here's a comic that describes it: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCXYRT4UwAAgdMy.jpg