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Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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While it's a cool tool, what exactly was the (commercial) potential Keybase had? I could never tell.

Secure filesharing and chat, for starters. Secure digital wallets tied to identity. It was a wallet platform I'd actually be interested in.

Encrypted git repos with ties to team chat...

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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They do keep saying "multiplatform", but I guess that's Windows/macOS/iOS/Android, not Linux. They're not the only ones though, this is what most companies call "on any device".

Zoom works great on Linux, it's a proper native app and the quality is excellent. Screensharing is notoriously tricky on Wayland and has been a shifting target that is just now starting to settle, I'm sure it'll eventually work.

> Zoom works great on Linux

And depends on iBus which breaks keyboard input for me.

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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The negativity here is astounding. This really comes down a company putting their money where their mouth is. Think about the reasons you'd decide to acquire Keybase. It certainly isn't for PR as most people have no idea what Keybase is. What we are seeing is that Zoom is truly concerned about how their security posture is hurting their business. Remember they aren't the only game in town and there are plenty of comp…

> The negativity here is astounding.

Should it not be? I love Keybase, I've been using it for a long time and it's such an important part of my daily workflow that I would be more than happy to be a paid subscriber. Now it's most likely gonna shut down. I find it hard to find any positivity in this.

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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For years people have been begging Keybase to allow them to pay them for the service and Chris Coyne always refused. Now they've lost their independence and they're owned by a communication company that has [edit: the majority of] its dev team in China. I use Keybase to talk to my friend in China since it's one of the few services they don't block. This is a pretty disappointing outcome.

I am curious: do they block Zoom?

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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The negativity here is astounding. This really comes down a company putting their money where their mouth is. Think about the reasons you'd decide to acquire Keybase. It certainly isn't for PR as most people have no idea what Keybase is. What we are seeing is that Zoom is truly concerned about how their security posture is hurting their business. Remember they aren't the only game in town and there are plenty of comp…

Best thing they could have done. They purchased expertise and a brand that is untarnished and loved in security circles.

> a brand that is untarnished and loved in security circles.

It was just tarnished and unloved. Got notified this morning that I won't be able to access the public files of most of my 'security circle' on Keybase because they deleted their accounts.

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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> communication company that has its entire dev team in China citation needed Also, what are you trying to imply by this assertion?

> Also, what are you trying to imply by this assertion? It's just casual nativism/racism - acceptable on HN as long as it's about China.

It's not nativism or racism to have security concerns about a country with a non-existent commitment to an independent judiciary.

If China wants people to think of it as a country where laws matter, then they can start acting like laws matter.

https://worldjusticeproject.org/sites/default/files/document...

(And before we get whataboutism concerning {insert other country's wiretapping laws}, wiretapping through an independent judiciary is fundamentally different than via rubber stamp)

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Well that's it for Keybase. I can't continue to recommend them. I was able to look past the cryptocoin distribution to be honest, but teaming up with Zoom seems like the kiss of death for any security focus.

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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post #358

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> communication company that has its entire dev team in China citation needed Also, what are you trying to imply by this assertion?

> Also, what are you trying to imply by this assertion? It's just casual nativism/racism - acceptable on HN as long as it's about China.

"China" isn't a race, it's a multi-ethnic state with laws that heavily restrict communication. It's relevant to bring up in a thread about building encrypted communication technology.

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Keybase was dead as soon as they took VC money. Their original purpose — tying identities to keys — could have been a nice small non-profit. But there aren't fortunes to be made from managing GPG keys, so they had to pivot into shark jumping.

https://pgp.mit.edu/

Please, please, use https://keys.openpgp.org/ instead!

See https://keys.openpgp.org/about for why.

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Poor Zoom, first they were scapegoated due to the whole industry’s overuse, or faulty use, of the term ‘end-to-end encryption’ (especially if we believe Snowden’s claims in his latest book that portrays corporate cloud computing as a way for American corporations to create and sustain NSA backdoors). Now the team is probably pretty motivated to kick ass and show the world what they’re made of, considering they have Microsoft Teams, Skype Google Meet and other big co’s as competitors (or maybe it’s the opposite, and Zoom is the bigger NSA Trojan horse here).
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