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Ask HN: Keybase Alternatives?

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Re: Ask HN: Keybase Alternatives?

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Scuttlebutt is an open source p2p gossip network (no central servers) that includes clients that implement chat, blogging, git and github replacements, Shamir's Secret sharing (splitting up a secret by encrypting it so that a number of your friends are needed to decrypt, via Dark Crystal [https://darkcrystal.pw/]), games and probably more that I am forgetting. You could easily place your public keys in your user profile.

Re: Ask HN: Keybase Alternatives?

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Since nobody's mentioned Wire, it's not a 1:1 alternative but it's close in terms of chat. I don't think any 1:1 alternative to KeyBase will rise up anytime soon, hosting git and files will be a bit to build up to. Website: https://wire.com/en/ Their backend is open source unlike KeyBase: https://github.com/wireapp/wire-server

We've been using Wire in our company for a few years now, I can't say it's a great UX or bug-free, but it gets the job done and supports most things we want like being available on all platforms, key verification (proper e2ee, not like Keybase that trusts the server on first use), (group) calling and (group) video calling, audited, open source, sending files of course, timed/expiring messages, no need for a phone number upon registering... it's really quite complete if you're willing to put up with it being a sluggish web/electron client. Well, and the network effect: I wish more people were on it so that wouldn't be a barrier, but Keybase had the same issue there so this might be a good place for Keybase users to continue chatting.

Re: Ask HN: Keybase Alternatives?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zoom is not a Chinese company. The founder merely was born in China. He is US citizen. I am very put off by this anti-China rhetoric. Everything that even has a remote connection to China is now under suspicion. This is madness.

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Meanwhile, anti-anti-China people are ... often well meaning but a bit daft.

One managed to mishear "Uighur Muslims" (yes, there are anti-anti-China people who don't know who they are, and yes, they misheard "Uighur" as a word starting with "N") and it took me quite some annoyance to get that straightened out and everybody on the "Chinese people pretty cool, Xi really not so much" page.

Re: Ask HN: Keybase Alternatives?

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I am also curious here. I have used and advocated strongly for Keybase with a couple of local government clients to send sensitive files back and forth (not sensitive in the sense of national security, but more to preserve privacy and store encrypted at rest). But I want to get ahead of the concern that Keybase is now owned by a Chinese company, which instantly compromises it. PGP is dead on arrival, since it's an ov…

Were you unaware that the founder of Zoom is an American or are you implying that the company is Chinese despite that?

Re: Ask HN: Keybase Alternatives?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you! Currently it's not planned because it's a lack of focus and I believe that the existing alternatives (Signal & Matrix) are really good. Adding encrypted email is envisaged but it will be considered once the other features have reached stability (Email is such a mess...)

For encrypted email, maybe you could look for integration with something like mailpile.

Thank you For the hint! I will take a look

Re: Ask HN: Keybase Alternatives?

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Scuttlebutt is an open source p2p gossip network (no central servers) that includes clients that implement chat, blogging, git and github replacements, Shamir's Secret sharing (splitting up a secret by encrypting it so that a number of your friends are needed to decrypt, via Dark Crystal [ https://darkcrystal.pw/] ), games and probably more that I am forgetting. You could easily place your public keys in your user pr…

Just looked in the repository, looks like there is an app for it on f-droid. Do you have experience with Manyverse / would you recommend it?

app https://f-droid.org/app/se.manyver / website https://www.manyver.se/

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