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Zoom Acquires Keybase
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Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase
#372Keybase' post about the acquisition: https://keybase.io/blog/keybase-joins-zoom > What the Keybase team will be doing > Initially, our single top priority is helping to make Zoom even more secure. There are no specific plans for the Keybase app yet. Ultimately Keybase's future is in Zoom's hands, and we'll see where that takes us. Of course, if anything changes about Keybase’s availability, our users will get plenty…
Keybase was dead as soon as they took VC money. Their original purpose — tying identities to keys — could have been a nice small non-profit. But there aren't fortunes to be made from managing GPG keys, so they had to pivot into shark jumping.
We have letsencrypt and permanent.org as non-profits. An idea of a identity and key non-profit sounds like another critical piece we would need for a free, open web
Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase
#373> Zoom does not and will not proactively monitor meeting contents, but our trust and safety team will continue to use automated tools to look for evidence of abusive users based upon other available data. > Zoom has not and will not build a mechanism to decrypt live meetings for lawful intercept purposes. > We also do not have a means to insert our employees or others into meetings without being reflected in the part…
The statement about lawful intercept can only be considered a blatant lie. It’s a requirement in China and CALEA applies in the US. Europe, India and Australia have their own laws around this.
What makes you think that CALEA applies to Zoom (in the U.S.)?
IANAL, but I'm reasonably confident that it does not.
Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase
#374So, the company that got bribed by a shitcoin promoter to backdoor the keybase app so it can abuse your secret keybase identity keys to place permanent, non-removable shitcoin ads on your profile[1] (and then immediately denied that it was a backdoor and also lied about implementing the ability for users to remove the ads keybase got paid to place[2]) is now joining up with the company that has shipped sketchy backdo…
1: it wasn't a backdoor 2: it wasn't a backdoor
RON HOWARD VOICE OVER: It was a backdoor.
Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase
#375Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is wayland support even a femto blip on Zoom's radar ?
They do keep saying "multiplatform", but I guess that's Windows/macOS/iOS/Android, not Linux. They're not the only ones though, this is what most companies call "on any device".
Zoom works great on Linux, it's a proper native app and the quality is excellent. Screensharing is notoriously tricky on Wayland and has been a shifting target that is just now starting to settle, I'm sure it'll eventually work.
Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase
#376Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems that we live in an era where if you made bad decisions in the past, you can never be trusted to make good decisions ever again. Even if you own your bad decisions and show lots of improvement. Nope. Once a pariah, always a pariah.
> It seems that we live in an era where if you made bad decisions in the past, you can never be trusted to make good decisions ever again. Even if you own your bad decisions and show lots of improvement. I've seen this turn out for the best literally one time, and that was Microsoft. All the other times the bad company just continues its horrible slide into madness. It doesn't die either, just silently keeps churning…
Microsoft isn't turning out for the best, though.
They are just very good at putting a dusting of Open Source sugar on things.
Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase
#377For years people have been begging Keybase to allow them to pay them for the service and Chris Coyne always refused. Now they've lost their independence and they're owned by a communication company that has [edit: the majority of] its dev team in China. I use Keybase to talk to my friend in China since it's one of the few services they don't block. This is a pretty disappointing outcome.
> communication company that has its entire dev team in China citation needed Also, what are you trying to imply by this assertion?
China is a country with even less oversight than the US.
For a company that does security that's concerning.
Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase
#378For years people have been begging Keybase to allow them to pay them for the service and Chris Coyne always refused. Now they've lost their independence and they're owned by a communication company that has [edit: the majority of] its dev team in China. I use Keybase to talk to my friend in China since it's one of the few services they don't block. This is a pretty disappointing outcome.
> communication company that has its entire dev team in China citation needed Also, what are you trying to imply by this assertion?
Another citation: https://investors.zoom.us/static-files/09a01665-5f33-4007-8e... (warning, PDF)
> We also operate research and development centers in China, employing more than 700 employees as of January 31, 2020.
You can find more stories from last year talking about that was how Zoom had such a large engineering staff, is that it was cheaper for them to pay for R&D in china than in the US[0].
[0] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/26/zoom-key-profit-driver-ahead...
Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase
#379Keybase' post about the acquisition: https://keybase.io/blog/keybase-joins-zoom > What the Keybase team will be doing > Initially, our single top priority is helping to make Zoom even more secure. There are no specific plans for the Keybase app yet. Ultimately Keybase's future is in Zoom's hands, and we'll see where that takes us. Of course, if anything changes about Keybase’s availability, our users will get plenty…
Why would it be?
Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase
#380>"We're thrilled with the match, and we're excited to be working on security that affects everyone we know."
https://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/
Argh, yet another for the list. Certain cycles in the tech world are both extremely predictable and regrettable, yet for most of them the sting seems to fade a bit as the decades go by. But the acquisition-for-the-talent/IP-now-great-product-is-toast one somehow never, ever manages to lose its capability to be depressing. On the contrary new ones just make me think back on previous dearly departed that never got an equivalent replacement. It's part of what's made me particularly suspicious about new non-OSS "free" offerings, because that's generally just not sustainable. And the better it is the more I beg them to have some sort of decent paid tier. I guess some though just plain are aiming for a buyout from the start and that is in fact their planned profit/exit strategy, and fair enough but still ouch each time.