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The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

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Re: The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

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So I was recently looking at those as options for a very low budget video editing PC for someone, and yes, AMD destroys intel in raw CPU performance for the same price, however in those low-budget applications Intel has an upper hand - integrated GPU. With AMD you either have to go with the super crappy 3400G, which is a really poor CPU(but also very cheap), or for literally anything else + a dedicated GPU(which incr…

You still have the Ryzen 5 3400G with integrated graphics

Re: The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

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post #4

How about single core performance? Many games are pegged to one or two cores only. I've always found the AMD approach of throwing more cores at the problem not to be optimal.

It’s worth remembering that the PS4 and XB1 consoles both have eight relatively slow x64 cores. Thus any multiplatform titles targeting either of these platforms has to be optimised for many cores and cannot rely on single core performance.

Definitely. But in my case I don't play the last of the last. Most games I play such as world of Warcraft or csgo use old engines and don't take advantage of many cores.

Re: The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

#13

So I was recently looking at those as options for a very low budget video editing PC for someone, and yes, AMD destroys intel in raw CPU performance for the same price, however in those low-budget applications Intel has an upper hand - integrated GPU. With AMD you either have to go with the super crappy 3400G, which is a really poor CPU(but also very cheap), or for literally anything else + a dedicated GPU(which incr…

Yes, the article expresses some surprise that the new Ryzen 3 chips are based on binned Ryzen 5/7 3000's, rather than on the new and exciting Ryzen Mobile 4000's which do have integrated graphics and are benchmarking very well. Hopefully some Ryzen Mobile based desktop chips are coming soon too.

Re: The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s worth remembering that the PS4 and XB1 consoles both have eight relatively slow x64 cores. Thus any multiplatform titles targeting either of these platforms has to be optimised for many cores and cannot rely on single core performance.

Definitely. But in my case I don't play the last of the last. Most games I play such as world of Warcraft or csgo use old engines and don't take advantage of many cores.

But that was not your original premise. "Many" games are not single core. Rather, a few old classics that refuse to die are.

Re: The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

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post #4

How about single core performance? Many games are pegged to one or two cores only. I've always found the AMD approach of throwing more cores at the problem not to be optimal.

>> Many games are pegged to one or two cores only That hasn't been the case for a looong time. But to answer your question, they are much faster than anything from Intel at comparable pricing: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-amd-r... "The results here are immediately interesting. Despite costing less than every other CPU represented, the 3100 manages to tie the Core i5 9600K in single-core perf…

I have a Ryzen 3900X, and also an i5 for software development. With unoptimized code the Ryzen is pretty close to the i5. But when you start to really optimize it becomes obvious the i5 has more execution resources and is faster single threaded.

Re: The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s worth remembering that the PS4 and XB1 consoles both have eight relatively slow x64 cores. Thus any multiplatform titles targeting either of these platforms has to be optimised for many cores and cannot rely on single core performance.

Definitely. But in my case I don't play the last of the last. Most games I play such as world of Warcraft or csgo use old engines and don't take advantage of many cores.

World of Warcraft definitely takes advantage of multiple cores these days: https://wow.gamepedia.com/CVar_processAffinityMask

Re: The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely. But in my case I don't play the last of the last. Most games I play such as world of Warcraft or csgo use old engines and don't take advantage of many cores.

But that was not your original premise. "Many" games are not single core. Rather, a few old classics that refuse to die are.

https://store.steampowered.com/stats/Steam-Game-and-Player-S...

Probably most games on that list don't use all cores. So yeah not "many" but "most". Thanks for the correction.

Re: The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

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post #16
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely. But in my case I don't play the last of the last. Most games I play such as world of Warcraft or csgo use old engines and don't take advantage of many cores.

World of Warcraft definitely takes advantage of multiple cores these days: https://wow.gamepedia.com/CVar_processAffinityMask

I know that, but wow doesn't evenly distribute processing across all cores. Run it and you will see it uses just a couple cores for rendering.

Re: The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

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So I was recently looking at those as options for a very low budget video editing PC for someone, and yes, AMD destroys intel in raw CPU performance for the same price, however in those low-budget applications Intel has an upper hand - integrated GPU. With AMD you either have to go with the super crappy 3400G, which is a really poor CPU(but also very cheap), or for literally anything else + a dedicated GPU(which incr…

You still have the Ryzen 5 3400G with integrated graphics

This is the problem with AMD's intentionally misleading marketing. The Ryzen 5 3400G is an APU with a Zen+ CPU. The CPU core that's actually good, that everybody wants, is the Zen2. The Zen+ is pretty slow. It has performance comparable to $99 Intel CPUs from last year.

Re: The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

#20

I have a 5 year old Intel i7 CPU. Not to diverge too far from the topic, but would I have any reason to upgrade my CPU for gaming? I assume swapping my GTX 760 with a latest generation card would give me better gaming performance.

This should be easy for you to test. Play the game you want, at the settings you want. If the cpu is running at 100%, get a faster CPU; if it's not, get a faster GPU.
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