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My point exactly. Although if someone really does want to re-implement Xcode, more power to them I say! Me, I'll pay the 5 bucks.
This is a lot harder than just paying $4.99 for Xcode, but I wonder how difficult it would be to adapt GNUstep's developer tools to Cocoa development.
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Still, Smalltalk is seriously cool. I think the pricing was only one factor of Java's success. Smalltalk, for the C programmer, is pretty alien. No source files, no compiler... That takes some to get used to. Java provides a nice path towards OOP that's more forgiving than C++, yet, it's aesthetically compatible with C.
Version control also seemed an issue - commercial Smalltalks had tools like Envy - but all the projects I observed in the telecoms world seemed to have a senior developer doing nothing but merging images for the duration of the project.
Envy had a few pathologies, but I think there were pathologies in the projects as well.
This is just the beginning. Apple is in the position of "Your going to take it, and your going to LOVE IT." What are you going to do? Not develop for iOS/OSX with Xcode? Bwahahaha. Don't forget apple is a large public corp. I don't think making less money is in the plans. This is just a small part of the plan. Just wait until you have to be in a Apple approved facility, wearing apple approved developer uniforms to in…
Ahh, cynical sarcasm. What would a long list of comments be without you.
MOOOOOAAAR!!!
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Just curious, I'm assuming that switching to Linux to get automatic updates for all packages would cost you more than $5 in pain in other areas. Is that assumption correct?
I switched from windows to linux as my main OS a little while back. Currently, I run only linux, but I have previously run a dual boot setup with windows 7. That was just a speedbump. Now, if I want to update anything I type the following in the command line: sudo apt-get udpdate sudo apt-get upgrade ... And that is all. Unless you meant some other kind of pain and suffering?
buying Xcode to actually raise the market value of a iOS device (more software offerings): $4.99 having to own a mac to do that: priceless ...or actually, $1,999.99 i think i will pass.
Right, because you don't expect to get anything out of it.
I can't post values that aren't mine. But i can say that none made much more than others ...from what they tell me.
one would probably compile on a friends mac and sell on the apple store, but since he would have all the hassle of also setting up a bank account in the US he never bothered.
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Only people in certain countries matter. Most of the world just pirates software.
That is cruel and incorrect. People pirate software everywhere . Many successful hackers were brought up in places where $5 is nothing to be sneezed at, and the dance of getting-that-$5-into-Apple's-pocket can cost you more than that in time and effort alone.
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Either buy the gift card in your country, or alternatively get a US gift card on eBay.
See the kind of convoluted procedures this silly price is making people do?
I'm an academic who develops Free / Open Source software and distributes libraries and binaries for the Windows, x86 and x86_64 Linux and Mac platforms along with the source. One important library generates C code based on a domain specific language, links a shared object and uses that; on Windows and Linux, we ship a cut back gcc and libtools to do that; libtools doesn't work on the Mac (at least last time I looked…
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That is cruel and incorrect. People pirate software everywhere . Many successful hackers were brought up in places where $5 is nothing to be sneezed at, and the dance of getting-that-$5-into-Apple's-pocket can cost you more than that in time and effort alone.
How is that cruel? When talking about revenue generated by software firms only people in certain countries matter. How much money do you think apple makes from the entire african subcontinent, for example? Why should apple give a crap about making it easier for that group of people to purchase their developer kit?
I'm an academic who develops Free / Open Source software and distributes libraries and binaries for the Windows, x86 and x86_64 Linux and Mac platforms along with the source. One important library generates C code based on a domain specific language, links a shared object and uses that; on Windows and Linux, we ship a cut back gcc and libtools to do that; libtools doesn't work on the Mac (at least last time I looked…
Are you really saying that you can't afford to pay $5 from your own pocket for XCode 4? What price, other than $0, would be acceptable for a tool that took years of effort by a team of programmers and cost Apple tens of millions in programmer's salaries to develop?