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100% ad tech or some Mulesoft style middleware app.
MS and Boomi runs on AWS. Not those ones.
Ask HN: Is your company sticking to on-premise servers? Why?
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Re: Ask HN: Is your company sticking to on-premise servers? Why?
#672Like many others have pointed out: Cost. I'm the CTO of a moderately sized gaming community, Hypixel Minecraft, who operates about 700 rented dedicated machines to service 70k-100k concurrent players. We push about 4PB/mo in egress bandwidth, something along the lines of 32gbps 95th-percentile. The big cloud providers have repeatedly quoted us an order of magnitude more than our entire fleet's cost....JUST in bandwid…
Re: Ask HN: Is your company sticking to on-premise servers? Why?
#673Like many others have pointed out: Cost. I'm the CTO of a moderately sized gaming community, Hypixel Minecraft, who operates about 700 rented dedicated machines to service 70k-100k concurrent players. We push about 4PB/mo in egress bandwidth, something along the lines of 32gbps 95th-percentile. The big cloud providers have repeatedly quoted us an order of magnitude more than our entire fleet's cost....JUST in bandwid…
Re: Ask HN: Is your company sticking to on-premise servers? Why?
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> Uber, who operates under managed colo, spends nearly 200M/yr alone on real estate for their datacenters 200 million a year, huh. The cost of commercial office space in the U.S. can range from $6 per square foot in low cost regions to over $12 per square foot in New York City. On average, a 50-cabinet data center will occupy about 1,700 square feet. At a median cost of $8 per square foot, the space alone would cost…
> Office and data center rent expense was $194 million and $221 million for the years ended December 31, 2017 and 2018, respectively. https://s23.q4cdn.com/407969754/files/doc_financials/2019/ar... Page 124
Re: Ask HN: Is your company sticking to on-premise servers? Why?
#675Like many others have pointed out: Cost. I'm the CTO of a moderately sized gaming community, Hypixel Minecraft, who operates about 700 rented dedicated machines to service 70k-100k concurrent players. We push about 4PB/mo in egress bandwidth, something along the lines of 32gbps 95th-percentile. The big cloud providers have repeatedly quoted us an order of magnitude more than our entire fleet's cost....JUST in bandwid…
To elaborate, we've worked with many customers looking to get out of "slinging metal" and focus on what matters to their business most. Some have said that the revenue generated justifies the cost of BUT others (and I think you'll see this more over the next decade) are looking at automated bare metal. You get the primitives of the cloud but on physical servers, and more importantly with economics closer to running y…
Re: Ask HN: Is your company sticking to on-premise servers? Why?
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Dropbox did the same thing a few years back - moved everything from Amazon S3 to their own storage. My guess is they did it for cost reasons.
They did, but at Dropbox's size it should be pretty obvious. I mean, their whole business model is essentially acting as a cloud storage provider. Once they got big enough, of course it made sense for them to optimize their infrastructure instead of letting another company take x% off the top.
Re: Ask HN: Is your company sticking to on-premise servers? Why?
#677I use a $5/mo DigitalOcean VPS droplet instead of AWS or other "cloud" service. I only have to host an analytics dashboard ( https://usertrack.net/ ), I don't need scaling and this way I know exactly how much I will pay. The resources are more than enough for my needs and I don't think it could be much cheaper even on the most optimized pay-per-minute of use cloud platforms. I also have some other APIs hosted in the…
off topic: do you really track the users mouse movements and personal data (IP & such) on your side without asking for permission? Kinda strange these days, isn't it?
> personal data (IP & such) I agree, Still storing IP is a bit strange. I am still working on the privacy policy and option to not store IP at all. All tracking is session-based (no cookie), and no personal information is stored (only the IP, which is currently only partially displayed, and which is AFAIK not considered personal information).
> track the users mouse movements The site has no inputs, so it only tracks the mouse movements/scroll. Do you consider this to be a privacy concern, especially if the visit is anonymized (can not be linked to yourself as a person)? Seeing a replay of the visit is really useful for understanding what visitors do on the site and how to make their experience better.
> Kinda strange these days, isn't it? I agree, but I still think it's a lot better than other platforms, it complies with GDPR regulations, no cookies involved, no data is sent to third parties, no personal information is being stored (only the previously mentioned IP). I am also continously improving it and adding more privacy-focused features.
Re: Ask HN: Is your company sticking to on-premise servers? Why?
#678I work in Livermore Computing at LLNL. We manage upwards of 30 different compute clusters (many listed here: https://hpc.llnl.gov/hardware/platforms ). You can read about the machine slated to hit the floor in 2022/2023 here: https://www.llnl.gov/news/llnl-and-hpe-partner-amd-el-capita... . All the machines are highly utilized, and they have fast Infiniband/OmniPath networks that you simply cannot get in the cloud. F…
I grew up across the street from the the Lab on (Cheryl Dr.). Now early 30s, I’m a AWS architect and software engineer at a finance company in Bozeman, Montana, but I would kill to be an engineer for pursuit of knowledge ya know? I dream of working there some day.. and I miss home
Re: Ask HN: Is your company sticking to on-premise servers? Why?
#679Earlier quoted context omitted.
You wouldn't run your own datacenter, you would colocate. Even if that's not possible, you can still rent servers for significantly cheaper than cloud offerings.
Wow... really a first world perspective here.
Even then, you can colocate in a datacenter anywhere you want, have equipment delivered there and pay remote hands to install it for you for a very reasonable fee.
Of course this doesn't make sense if you just want a small webserver, but that's not who we are talking about here.
Re: Ask HN: Is your company sticking to on-premise servers? Why?
#680Earlier quoted context omitted.
Gaming company senior reliability engineer/officer here, with the same tune. We're operating thousands of servers on three continents (NA, Europe, Asia), running our own game distribution network and basically doing as much as possible on prem. Every time we're trying to play by the cloud provider rules, we're getting stung with outrageous storage and bandwidth bills. I'm pushing for in-house k8s deployment to increa…
Are you looking at a specific vendor for your on prem k8s?