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Microsoft offers $100k to hack its custom Linux OS

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Re: Microsoft offers $100k to hack its custom Linux OS

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Post by nicesave »

mschuster91 wrote: post #2

> Businesses like Starbucks are rolling out Azure Sphere to secure its store equipment, which feeds back data points on the type of beans, coffee temperature, and water quality for every shot of espresso. I understand detailed feedback on huge multi-million dollar industrial machines where proactive maintenance based upon massive ML datapoints can save unexpected downtimes with millions in damage, but on coffee machi…

I thought a lot of other large "fast food" retailers do the same for their equipment? Chik-fil-a does something similar for quality control and some predictive cooking if I recall correctly.

Re: Microsoft offers $100k to hack its custom Linux OS

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0 »

I am amused that MS has its own Linux flavor, but I won't make a joke about it. I won't mention previous attempts at embrace, extend and extinguish.

I want to focus on the IoT part.

Do not get me wrong. I am glad MS tries to show they care about security in IoT space. Heavens know I don't want to see Starbucks microwave botnet in 2021.

Re: Microsoft offers $100k to hack its custom Linux OS

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Post by thefounder »

Endlessly wrote: post #6
mschuster91 wrote: post #2

> Businesses like Starbucks are rolling out Azure Sphere to secure its store equipment, which feeds back data points on the type of beans, coffee temperature, and water quality for every shot of espresso. I understand detailed feedback on huge multi-million dollar industrial machines where proactive maintenance based upon massive ML datapoints can save unexpected downtimes with millions in damage, but on coffee machi…

(1) Food safety issues could literally kill Starbucks (2) Starbucks business depends on having those measurements for quality control (3) Starbucks gets lots of vendor deals from partner companies because they are a well know brand and having them on board helps land more deals (4) Hacker using the machines might be able to sabotage the stories; food poisoning, fires, etc (5) The smarter the tech in store — less trai…

>> The smarter the tech in store — less training required per employee on site

We know that the larger the attack surface the more likely is to get hacked so if Starbucks really cares about everything you said (i.e food safety issues) it should hire more people and less machines.

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Post by avianlyric »

mschuster91 wrote: post #2

> Businesses like Starbucks are rolling out Azure Sphere to secure its store equipment, which feeds back data points on the type of beans, coffee temperature, and water quality for every shot of espresso. I understand detailed feedback on huge multi-million dollar industrial machines where proactive maintenance based upon massive ML datapoints can save unexpected downtimes with millions in damage, but on coffee machi…

Well if your companies entire raison d'être is to serve coffee, then you’re gonna spend the cash to make sure your coffee machines are in tip-top shape.

It would be weird if Starbucks wasn’t investing in their coffee machines. Make me wonder what they were spending their money on.

Re: Microsoft offers $100k to hack its custom Linux OS

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Post by avianlyric »

thefounder wrote: post #14
Endlessly wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(1) Food safety issues could literally kill Starbucks (2) Starbucks business depends on having those measurements for quality control (3) Starbucks gets lots of vendor deals from partner companies because they are a well know brand and having them on board helps land more deals (4) Hacker using the machines might be able to sabotage the stories; food poisoning, fires, etc (5) The smarter the tech in store — less trai…

>> The smarter the tech in store — less training required per employee on site We know that the larger the attack surface the more likely is to get hacked so if Starbucks really cares about everything you said (i.e food safety issues) it should hire more people and less machines.

Have you met people? They’re really unreliable and inconsistent, especially on minimum wage.

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Post by WarChortle18 »

thefounder wrote: post #14
Endlessly wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(1) Food safety issues could literally kill Starbucks (2) Starbucks business depends on having those measurements for quality control (3) Starbucks gets lots of vendor deals from partner companies because they are a well know brand and having them on board helps land more deals (4) Hacker using the machines might be able to sabotage the stories; food poisoning, fires, etc (5) The smarter the tech in store — less trai…

>> The smarter the tech in store — less training required per employee on site We know that the larger the attack surface the more likely is to get hacked so if Starbucks really cares about everything you said (i.e food safety issues) it should hire more people and less machines.

How would more people make their coffee more consistent?

Starbucks is a massive chain people expect the same thing at any Starbucks they go to. People are very inconsistent, if the coffee tasted different at every Starbucks they would not be as large as they are.

Re: Microsoft offers $100k to hack its custom Linux OS

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Post by INTPenis »

fnord123 wrote: post #17

Win win. Flag not captured: MSFT is secure! Flag captured: Linux is insecure.

It's actually a specific offer regarding two Microsoft initiatives, "the Pluton security subsystem or Secure World sandbox".

Almost as if they assume Linux can be breached, but not their fabulous software. ;)

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