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Florian Schneider has died

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Huh, I didn't realize they localized these. The Japanese texts say things like "Fukushima radiation, today and forever, stop it now".

> I didn't realize they localized these. Which is why this is my favorite version of the song. They kind of evolved it with the Hiroshima accident.

I think you have your geography and timeline mixed up a bit.

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Very sad day. Autobahn, Man Machine and Computer World were my constant background music when I was learning to program on a TRS-80 all those years back. "I program my home computer... beam myself into the future..."

Still programming, still find Kraftwerk inspiring. Thank you Florien and Rest in Peace. Your music changed my life.

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I attended a live Kraftwerk show about 17 years ago, what amazed me was the depth of the lyrics in German vs the simplified English lyrics. Kraftwerk is more political than the simplistic English lyrics would portray. It was then that I had new found appreciation for their craft. Praxis.

Interesting. Can you give an example? I've never bothered to translate the German lyrics.

I'm guessing that, in the process of translating lyrics to another language, word choices are made based on a preference for keeping the original rhyming scheme and rhythm. Alternatively, it could just be a bias resulting from the listener's experience with each language.

Re: Florian Schneider has died

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post #90
post #86

I attended a live Kraftwerk show about 17 years ago, what amazed me was the depth of the lyrics in German vs the simplified English lyrics. Kraftwerk is more political than the simplistic English lyrics would portray. It was then that I had new found appreciation for their craft. Praxis.

Interesting. Can you give an example? I've never bothered to translate the German lyrics.

Compare

Sie ist ein Model und sie sieht gut aus Ich nähm sie heut gerne mit zu mir nach Haus Sie wirkt so kühl, an sie kommt niemand ran Doch vor der Kamera da zeigt sie was sie kann

Sie trinkt in Nachtclubs immer Sekt (Korrekt!) Und hat hier alle Männer abgecheckt Im Scheinwerferlicht ihr junges Lächeln strahlt Sie sieht gut aus und Schönheit wird bezahlt

Sie stellt sich zur Schau für das Konsumprodukt Und wird von Millionen Augen angeguckt Ihr neues Titelbild ist einfach fabelhaft Ich muß sie wieder seh'n, ich weiß sie hat's geschafft

vs

She's a model and she's looking good I'd like to take her home that's understood She plays hard to get, she smiles from time to time It only takes a camera to change her mind

She's going out tonight but drinking just champagne And she has been checking nearly all the men She's playing her game and you can hear them say She is looking good, for beauty we will pay

She's posing for consumer products now and then For every camera she gives the best she can I saw her on the cover of a magazine Now, she's a big success, I want to meet her again

--

The deeper layer of the lyrics is almost completely absent in the English version.

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post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. Can you give an example? I've never bothered to translate the German lyrics.

I'm guessing that, in the process of translating lyrics to another language, word choices are made based on a preference for keeping the original rhyming scheme and rhythm. Alternatively, it could just be a bias resulting from the listener's experience with each language.

Very true in the case of Kraftwerk, what is interesting that they tried at all, probably simply to reach a larger audience commercially, German lyrics wouldn't go very far in the English speaking world. Even Nena translated 99 lufballons.

English is much more compact, so there is quite a bit of filler words to match the music.

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They predicted "computer world" in 1981 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa7WrCqsTC0 "Crime, Travel, Communication, Entertainment"

Computer World was used for the opening theme of the BBC’s ground breaking Computer Programme[1].

My family were lucky enough to have a BBC model B, a home computer developed for the show and the eventual proving ground for the ARM processor.

Kraftwerk and the Beeb were bound up in my head as a child.

For me Kraftwerk sound like the white hot future rushing into our world (...and also playing Chuckie Egg and Elite with my Dad!).

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Computer_Programme

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I was going to see them live for the first time in Minneapolis before everything was cancelled. Very sad. But his legacy lives on.

I'm in the same boat. I tried buying tickets for European shows last year but didn't succeed. And now the show is coming to USA town, I get 4th row tickets and bam... Disappointment all around.

Florian left Kraftwerk years ago though, you weren’t going to see him anyway :)

Re: Florian Schneider has died

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Electronic or not, very inspiring compositions as well. My favorite "acoustic" cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH_VKWStK98

If it’s your cup of tea Senior Coconut provide a range of “latin” Kraftwerk covers too. Here’s Showroom Dummies[1]

[1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=buh8YnTwppM

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