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Facebook iOS SDK Remotely Crashing Spotify, TikTok, Pinterest, Winno and More

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Re: Facebook iOS SDK Remotely Crashing Spotify, TikTok, Pinterest, Winno and More

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Post by w-j-w »

yllus wrote: post #36

For those wondering why the Facebook SDK is so widely used in popular mobile apps: Facebook Login is actually in the minority of reasons to add the Facebook SDK to your mobile app. The vast majority of apps will add the Facebook SDK because it contains Facebook App Ads; a library that "completes the circle" in terms of finding out how effectively the ads you ran on Facebook were at getting people to download, install…

Why on Earth is it the advertiser's perspective that decides what is spyware. This is a consumer rights issue. As a user, I don't care what the intentions of the spying are.

Re: Facebook iOS SDK Remotely Crashing Spotify, TikTok, Pinterest, Winno and More

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Post by 5cott0 »

ignoramous wrote: post #31
ExactActuation wrote: post #16

But all of the engineers passed LeetCode, how could this be?

Facebook engineering generally is super competent. Leet code or not, such slip ups are bound to happen from time to time. True test of competence would be these mistakes don't repeat and that they learn from it, which I'm pretty sure they would.

So you're saying we can be confident they won't break democracy again?

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Post by g_p »

Perhaps this outage will raise awarenesses more broadly as to the prevalence of "non essential" third party SDKs like these, and the risk that their failure can significantly impact on the wider ecosystem.

I can't imagine Apple will be all too pleased by this. Perhaps time for them to look at clamping down on SDKs that make remote network requests? (Given they have their own private sign in system now as well, they might even have a secondary incentive)

Re: Facebook iOS SDK Remotely Crashing Spotify, TikTok, Pinterest, Winno and More

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Post by airstrike »

5cott0 wrote: post #44
ignoramous wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook engineering generally is super competent. Leet code or not, such slip ups are bound to happen from time to time. True test of competence would be these mistakes don't repeat and that they learn from it, which I'm pretty sure they would.

So you're saying we can be confident they won't break democracy again?

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Re: Facebook iOS SDK Remotely Crashing Spotify, TikTok, Pinterest, Winno and More

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Post by Lammy »

ignoramous wrote: post #31
ExactActuation wrote: post #16

But all of the engineers passed LeetCode, how could this be?

Facebook engineering generally is super competent. Leet code or not, such slip ups are bound to happen from time to time. True test of competence would be these mistakes don't repeat and that they learn from it, which I'm pretty sure they would.

> True test of competence would be these mistakes don't repeat and that they learn from it

It's not that they aren't smart or don't learn but that FB's performance review process rewards optimizing for growth over reliability/sustainability.

e: you can downvote me but I lived it so you won't change my mind :)

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Post by riazrizvi »

surferbayarea wrote: post #11

Why is facebook spyware part of Spotify. I signed up to Spotify via email not facebook login.

Spotify is a web app, that is wrapped into clients on different platforms. The app is constantly pinging googletagservices.com, edgesuite.net, fbcdn.net, fbsbx.com, google.com, googlesyndication.com and doubleclick.net, however you are using the app. It doesn't matter if you only listen to one, unshared, downloaded playlist. Constant tracking.

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Post by SwiftyBug »

ignoramous wrote: post #31
ExactActuation wrote: post #16

But all of the engineers passed LeetCode, how could this be?

Facebook engineering generally is super competent. Leet code or not, such slip ups are bound to happen from time to time. True test of competence would be these mistakes don't repeat and that they learn from it, which I'm pretty sure they would.

Exactly. OP makes it harder on everyone expecting engineers to be flawless just because they've gone through a very selective hiring process. Programming is hard.
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