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Re: Florian Schneider has died

#61
post #34

I still will never forget that when Kobe died this community absolutely lost it and downvoted and flagged every link related to it.

Different groups are interested in different celebrities.

So ignore the submission instead of downvoting it and flagging it for being against guidelines when this submission makes it clear that it’s just a preference and not a hard and fast rule.

Re: Florian Schneider has died

#62
post #39

I was going to see them live for the first time in Minneapolis before everything was cancelled. Very sad. But his legacy lives on.

Just a note, Florian hasn't played with Kraftwerk since he left (retired?) in Nov 2008... so you wouldn't have seen him anyway. I sure hope that tour goes on once things return to normal!

Re: Florian Schneider has died

#63
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Different groups are interested in different celebrities.

So ignore the submission instead of downvoting it and flagging it for being against guidelines when this submission makes it clear that it’s just a preference and not a hard and fast rule.

I don't recall seeing any HN guidelines regarding acceptable reasons for downvoting. This makes downvotes ambiguous. It could mean that someone found the story/post uninteresting, or in breach of site etiquette, or that they disagreed with your position/argument but couldn't be bothered to reply.

Many HN users (including me) share your frustration with this state of affairs, but there's no consensus that this should change.

Re: Florian Schneider has died

#64
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So ignore the submission instead of downvoting it and flagging it for being against guidelines when this submission makes it clear that it’s just a preference and not a hard and fast rule.

I don't recall seeing any HN guidelines regarding acceptable reasons for downvoting . This makes downvotes ambiguous. It could mean that someone found the story/post uninteresting, or in breach of site etiquette, or that they disagreed with your position/argument but couldn't be bothered to reply. Many HN users (including me) share your frustration with this state of affairs, but there's no consensus that this should…

People justified flagging and downvoting the story at the time because there’s some guidelines around “no current event stories that you could read about anywhere”

It wasn’t just downvoting it was flagging it for removal. All of them.

Re: Florian Schneider has died

#65
post #48

Legend. I saw Kraftwerk live years ago and it was one of the most overwhelming performances I’ve ever seen in my life. Beneath the bouncy, poppy hooks there was a massive darkness — the pairing of visuals with the music really drove that home. (The only other live musical performance that I recall giving me a similar feeling was the band ‘Godspeed You Black Emperor‘, who also made use of projected imagery in such a t…

Recently saw a Chemical brothers show that amazed me, I'm sure they borrowed liberally from these pioneers.

Re: Florian Schneider has died

#66
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't recall seeing any HN guidelines regarding acceptable reasons for downvoting . This makes downvotes ambiguous. It could mean that someone found the story/post uninteresting, or in breach of site etiquette, or that they disagreed with your position/argument but couldn't be bothered to reply. Many HN users (including me) share your frustration with this state of affairs, but there's no consensus that this should…

People justified flagging and downvoting the story at the time because there’s some guidelines around “no current event stories that you could read about anywhere” It wasn’t just downvoting it was flagging it for removal. All of them.

There actually is a related guideline [0]:

> What to Submit

> On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.

> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

IMHO those guidelines indicate that neither Bryant's nor Schneider's deaths should be posted on HN. I can see why you'd be frustrated that one was upvoted and the other downvoted.

You might be happiest by putting this in the "imperfect system manned by imperfect people" bucket. One can only get worked up about so many issues before going bitter and crazy.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Florian Schneider has died

#67
post #48

Legend. I saw Kraftwerk live years ago and it was one of the most overwhelming performances I’ve ever seen in my life. Beneath the bouncy, poppy hooks there was a massive darkness — the pairing of visuals with the music really drove that home. (The only other live musical performance that I recall giving me a similar feeling was the band ‘Godspeed You Black Emperor‘, who also made use of projected imagery in such a t…

I always enjoyed the part of the show where they'd pulled the curtains down, then when they were put up again, the entire group was replaced by robotic mannequins! Since their show was sync'd to the video in back of them, I'm pretty sure the music was all queued up too. They didn't really need to be up there at all! I think only Aphex Twin pulled off such a stunt as well, where he walked to the stage, pressed a butto…

I've seen Kraftwerk live many times, and on two or three occasions they've played a bum note, or messed up the drumline, and had to stop and re-sync. So I can definitely confirm that they are playing "live", even for their most recent "3-D" tour.

(Though not, I assume, during the "Robots" sequence, which I assume is recorded. And I think that's actually the whole point of that sequence.)

Re: Florian Schneider has died

#68
post #4

They predicted "computer world" in 1981 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa7WrCqsTC0 "Crime, Travel, Communication, Entertainment"

And electronic dating in "Computer Love" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNBGWenPlGo ). I always thought that song was about the "love" one feels using a computer. The relationship between a programmer and a machine. Perhaps I was just hearing what I wanted to hear though.

> I always thought that song was about the "love" one feels using a computer.

It's definitely about both. They've always enjoyed writing songs with multiple meanings. Before it was re-written for the live tour, the original lyrics of "Radio activity" are about both Radioactivity, and "Radio Activity".

Re: Florian Schneider has died

#69
post #32

My favorite song by kraftwerk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWsQgmq-fNs

you know that the percussive urgent beeping at beginning and end spells out "RADIOACTIVITY" and "ITS IN THE AIR" in Morse code?

When played live, they spell out "KRAFTWERK" instead.
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