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Buttplug: An open-source software suite for teledildonics

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Re: Buttplug: An open-source software suite for teledildonics

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Post by pmichaud »

crankylinuxuser wrote: post #52
downerending wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm. Would a security breach count as assault?

/serious hat I don't believe there's been a case history yet of "hacking + sex crime", but many of us in the community believe that this is a strong possibility. It's one thing to target fintech, or some website, or a general SaaS offering. However when you're targeting sextech with the knowledge that a hack allows remote unintended stimulation (read: sexual assault), shows that they intended the hack and intended se…

I get what you're saying in the abstract, but when I try to imagine it concretely, it stops making sense to me. Eg. a person is using a sex toy and tries to make it vibrate a certain way, but an attacker has caused it vibrate a different way. Sure, in some vague sense it's an unwanted type of stimulation and someone is involved in it that isn't supposed to be. But I think that scenario tortures the definition of sexual assault beyond recognition. Am I just not thinking of more obvious cases?

Re: Buttplug: An open-source software suite for teledildonics

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Post by qdot76367 »

dgrin91 wrote: post #50
qdot76367 wrote: post #40

Hi! Buttplug Project Lead here! AMA!

There have been numerous stories in the past of IoT sex toys basically being thrown together by people with no tech knowledge and leaving the passwords as defaults, etc. Makes hacking/stealing the data trivial and obviously problematic for the product and users. What does project do to ensure security?

For Buttplug specifically, it's just a hardware control library. While there are ways to use network-as-ipc for the system (mostly to establish control from browsers that don't support hardware access internally), it's not recommended as a basis for a service without some modifications.

Buttplug is a core technology of my startup, alongside the user facing Intiface brand (https://intiface.com). I'll be working on more network focused services there in the near future, where I'll be addressing more security focused questions.

If you're curious about some of the beginning directions of that, I posted a full Teledildonics 101 workshop last month on my youtube channel, that goes over systems design thinking for remote intimacy, including some touchpoints on security.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDZBOOe-bdwNAjm018ql9...

Re: Buttplug: An open-source software suite for teledildonics

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Post by qdot76367 »

lykahb wrote: post #59
yabatopia wrote: post #38

I'm a bit surprised how many hardware are supported: https://iostindex.com/?filter0Availability=Available,DIY . It's like a whole new world of names: estim machine, rabbit, bra vibrator, twerking butt deluxe, night howler, kinikat ... Even the Microsoft Xbox controller made the list.

I didn't imagine Xbox controller fit in the butt.

Yes. Please do not put the controller in your butt.

Re: Buttplug: An open-source software suite for teledildonics

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Post by qdot76367 »

qdot76367 wrote: post #63
dgrin91 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There have been numerous stories in the past of IoT sex toys basically being thrown together by people with no tech knowledge and leaving the passwords as defaults, etc. Makes hacking/stealing the data trivial and obviously problematic for the product and users. What does project do to ensure security?

For Buttplug specifically , it's just a hardware control library. While there are ways to use network-as-ipc for the system (mostly to establish control from browsers that don't support hardware access internally), it's not recommended as a basis for a service without some modifications. Buttplug is a core technology of my startup, alongside the user facing Intiface brand ( https://intiface.com ). I'll be working on…

Oh, and for more security resources, see this comment up-thread.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23095167

Re: Buttplug: An open-source software suite for teledildonics

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Post by Der_Einzige »

claudiawerner wrote: post #13
adwn wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I see it as an expressway for the continued objectification of women Why? And do you also see it as an expressway for the objectification of men? Of not, why not?

It probably is also an expressway for the objectification of men, but it seems to be used (currently) for women - arguably the objectification of women is much more widespread with modern porn and tech than it is for men. Look at the number of female sex robots on the market versus male sex bots (and no, dildos/fleshlights emulating a single body part such as a penis or vulva by any reasonable argument is not the sam…

Women are not showing demand for male sex bots.

It is far easier for a woman who desires sex to have it quickly with something higher quality than a sexbot (think tinder) than it is for men. As a result, men want to buy sexbots. Woman who want male bots likely make up less than 5% of the sexbot market and that's generous as hell of an estimate.

I'm willing to bet that this is not all social construction, and a world where men were equally as objectified would only cause slightly more demand for male sexbots. Additionally, I think male objectification is more widespread than you give it credit for. Though, much of it is men objectifying other men.

You're right about your other points though.

Re: Buttplug: An open-source software suite for teledildonics

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Post by SequoiaHope »

qdot76367 wrote: post #58
yabatopia wrote: post #38

I'm a bit surprised how many hardware are supported: https://iostindex.com/?filter0Availability=Available,DIY . It's like a whole new world of names: estim machine, rabbit, bra vibrator, twerking butt deluxe, night howler, kinikat ... Even the Microsoft Xbox controller made the list.

Yup! If it vibrates, we support it. The XBox controller (and other rumble gamepads) are probably the most widely owned vibrators, so hey, why not? I'm still trying to find a bluetooth electric toothbrush with a controls API. Most of them just have timers. :(

Qdot did I ever show you, like 8 years ago after some Arse Elektronica, my thrusting brushless linear motor based sex machine? I designed and built brushless linear motors from scratch as well as the drive electronics. Anyway I never made it in to a business and lately think I will open source it all. I was going to ask for your email but I just discovered metafetish, so I can post something there. I'll do so in a few days.

Anyway I haven't seen you in 8-10 years but it's good to see you around here!

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