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Florian Schneider has died

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Re: Florian Schneider has died

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Post by pstuart »

_jal wrote: post #9
Ididntdothis wrote: post #2

Now their music is kind of obvious but when you think about the scene back then it’s pretty amazing what they did.

Only in the same way that Led Zeppelin sounds "obvious". The context from which you're listening to it is partly defined by it. (I really don't want to get in to a "who is better/more important/whatever" argument. If choosing Led Zeppelin as a comparison bothers you, please substitute for taste.)

I'm not sure about that. Zep looted a lot of blues songs and just made 'em harder, and "hard rock" was a thing by that time.

I was a huge fan and they were my first "real" concert in 1977, at the infamous Day on the Green where Bonham and Grant were arrested for beating up a BGP employee. Get off my lawn! :-)

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Post by asjw »

This is tragic.

Kraftwerk, in my opinion, invented modern music and will be the classical music of our times.

There have been moments of my life where I would listen morgen spaziergang for hours in loop, it was the only thing that could get me through the day without rage bursts.

It's my Linus cover.

Through them I discovered all the bands I love, from the most experimental electronic ones to David Bowie.

His contribution in taking "intelligent music" (sorry, can't find a better term) from something for the eiltè to something POP will be fully appreciated only when we'll be long gone.

Gute reise Meister

The power plant will be producing its magic energy forever

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Post by marton78 »

grillvogel wrote: post #14
Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #8

RIP. A titan of music. Not only Kraftwerk are among my favorite artists, but my 8-month-old baby loves Autobahn.

my 2 year old loves kraftwerk and will actually throw tantrums to get us to put it on

My two and my four year old love dancing to "Die Roboter".

Re: Florian Schneider has died

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Post by hinkley »

OzzyB wrote: post #5
Ididntdothis wrote: post #2

Now their music is kind of obvious but when you think about the scene back then it’s pretty amazing what they did.

Nothing obvious about it. That's like saying Roland's shitty bass accompaniment gizmo, the TB-303, was obviously built for Acid House.

I recall in college having several conversations with people who gave up on reading Lord of the Rings because 'it felt derivative'.

Trying to politely explain to them that the fiction they had already read was the derivative work, while on the inside I was screaming:

Look here, you little shit.

I know we bristled at this in school, but I think there is in fact something to the idea of presenting a discipline to people in a Cliff's Notes version of chronological order. Otherwise you may never see the value in the foundational works in that area (or as the case here, artistic medium).

Re: Florian Schneider has died

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

asjw wrote: post #22

This is tragic. Kraftwerk, in my opinion, invented modern music and will be the classical music of our times. There have been moments of my life where I would listen morgen spaziergang for hours in loop, it was the only thing that could get me through the day without rage bursts. It's my Linus cover. Through them I discovered all the bands I love, from the most experimental electronic ones to David Bowie. His contrib…

I love Kraftwerk and have done so for 40 years or more.

But this is not "tragic". People die. Florian was going to die. He wasn't young. He totally transformed the world of popular music. He had an awesome life, and now it is over. That's not tragic, it's just the nature of being alive.

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Post by shawnz »

_jal wrote: post #9
Ididntdothis wrote: post #2

Now their music is kind of obvious but when you think about the scene back then it’s pretty amazing what they did.

Only in the same way that Led Zeppelin sounds "obvious". The context from which you're listening to it is partly defined by it. (I really don't want to get in to a "who is better/more important/whatever" argument. If choosing Led Zeppelin as a comparison bothers you, please substitute for taste.)

See: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunn...

Re: Florian Schneider has died

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Post by asjw »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #25
asjw wrote: post #22

This is tragic. Kraftwerk, in my opinion, invented modern music and will be the classical music of our times. There have been moments of my life where I would listen morgen spaziergang for hours in loop, it was the only thing that could get me through the day without rage bursts. It's my Linus cover. Through them I discovered all the bands I love, from the most experimental electronic ones to David Bowie. His contrib…

I love Kraftwerk and have done so for 40 years or more. But this is not "tragic". People die. Florian was going to die. He wasn't young. He totally transformed the world of popular music. He had an awesome life, and now it is over. That's not tragic, it's just the nature of being alive.

Probably it has to do with me being a non-native English speaker, but I meant tragic as "something really sad" and "end of an era".

He died of cancer, a terrible way to go and even though he wasn't part of Kraftwerk since 2008, I think his solo works were more relevant than ever.

Like this one

https://youtu.be/A5MtQMKa7ao

We lost someone who was higly influential and spoke boldly, but humbly, in support of the light side.

Not a good day for humanity, in one of the worst periods in modern times.

Re: Florian Schneider has died

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Post by DonHopkins »

awiesenhofer wrote: post #26

Still one of my favourite clips on youtube: the very first video recording of Kraftwerk live, from 1970! https://youtu.be/hWUiLJnEYJI (Those audience reactions!)

The audience's flabbergasted reaction was an essential part of the whole performance, thrown up on the big projection screen from the live video camera! That was totally high-tech at the time. It looked so authentic and unrehearsed.

Re: Florian Schneider has died

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Post by aasasd »

awiesenhofer wrote: post #26

Still one of my favourite clips on youtube: the very first video recording of Kraftwerk live, from 1970! https://youtu.be/hWUiLJnEYJI (Those audience reactions!)

Seems to be the same performance from which the Ruckzuck vid comes, and in that one a lot of people look stoned. Consider that krautrock is a direct descendant of 60s' psy-rock.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ABOMrTgPNZA

This connection is especially obvious when you see the previous incarnation—Organization—in color: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_eB-sl6ZLpo

(Though I gotta say that among early krautrock my favorite are Silver Apples, who were outstanding and far ahead of their time, but sank into complete obscurity after two albums.)

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