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Re: GitHub Codespaces

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Post by lern_too_spel »

wpietri wrote: post #119
swagonomixxx wrote: post #60

This is pretty epic. VS Code has proven itself to be one of the best (if not the best) and feature-complete editor out there. It's basically an IDE of a ton of languages at this point, and it's completely free. Integrating it with GH is a no-brainer move from Microsoft's standpoint, to increase market share even further with more seamless integration. If they're able to do setup for Python, Go, Ruby, and JavaScript p…

Free is a huge minus in my book. If I'm not the customer, then I'm the product. I'll happily keep paying for my JetBrains all-product license: https://www.jetbrains.com/all/

Even if you're the customer, 99.9% of the time, you're also the product.

Re: GitHub Codespaces

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Post by recursive »

wpietri wrote: post #119
swagonomixxx wrote: post #60

This is pretty epic. VS Code has proven itself to be one of the best (if not the best) and feature-complete editor out there. It's basically an IDE of a ton of languages at this point, and it's completely free. Integrating it with GH is a no-brainer move from Microsoft's standpoint, to increase market share even further with more seamless integration. If they're able to do setup for Python, Go, Ruby, and JavaScript p…

Free is a huge minus in my book. If I'm not the customer, then I'm the product. I'll happily keep paying for my JetBrains all-product license: https://www.jetbrains.com/all/

Do you avoid public drinking fountains? (Covid-19 aside)

Re: GitHub Codespaces

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Post by zach_garwood »

greatgib wrote: post #190

Typical Microsoft strategy: Embrace, extend and extinguish Soon the Platform will be renamed 'Microsost Visual Studio Github' or 'Microsoft team Github'. Then 'microsoft Visual studio hub'. Then at somme point, Github will be inside Visual studio code online and not anymore the other way around!

Um, they own it, so why shouldn't they be allowed to put their name on it?

Re: GitHub Codespaces

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Post by wpietri »

meheleventyone wrote: post #139
wpietri wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Free is a huge minus in my book. If I'm not the customer, then I'm the product. I'll happily keep paying for my JetBrains all-product license: https://www.jetbrains.com/all/

> If I'm not the customer, then I'm the product. This is not necessarily always the case, for example the free thing might be a loss leader, exist to boost secondary or tertiary effects or otherwise exist for non-profit motivated reasons.

Sure, it's a generalization, not an absolute. But for me there's not a big difference between "I'm the end product" and "I'm an intermediate product used to increase sales of the end product". Microsoft isn't a charity; they're an oligopoly pushing hard to keep their stock price up.

Re: GitHub Codespaces

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Post by AaronFriel »

filmgirlcw wrote: post #160
AaronFriel wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where do you think these VMs are hosted? :) I hope they allow BYO-remote backend for compliance reasons. This feature seems amazing but I cannot use it.

We do! https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/online/how-to/... (I work on Azure but not on this product)

I'm aware of the product, I'd like to know if there plans to integrate these two offerings (e.g.: click on GitHub CodeSpace and connect to my _personal_ remote server as opposed to one on Azure) and if there will be any better approaches for IT/Ops security focused folks to configure these en masse. The current approach is untenable, each user has to log in and set up a VS Remote environment individually, personally, and if I'm rolling this out to a team that's just not an option.

Re: GitHub Codespaces

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Post by SkyMarshal »

brightball wrote: post #174
mbreese wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sourcehut would like to have a word... https://sr.ht/

I had not seen that...interesting.

Source hut is cool. Among things, it prioritizes exposing and leveraging Git's existing functionality wherever possible, like email patches, rather than building new proprietary functionality on top of Git like Github and others do.

Re: GitHub Codespaces

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Post by nojito »

greatgib wrote: post #190

Typical Microsoft strategy: Embrace, extend and extinguish Soon the Platform will be renamed 'Microsost Visual Studio Github' or 'Microsoft team Github'. Then 'microsoft Visual studio hub'. Then at somme point, Github will be inside Visual studio code online and not anymore the other way around!

What?

This is just them creating a one stop shop for developers by expanding what GitHub offers.

Nothing to do with EEE

Re: GitHub Codespaces

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Post by wpietri »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #191
wpietri wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Free is a huge minus in my book. If I'm not the customer, then I'm the product. I'll happily keep paying for my JetBrains all-product license: https://www.jetbrains.com/all/

Even if you're the customer, 99.9% of the time, you're also the product.

Not in the sense which that is meant. The foundation of commerce is long-term, positive-sum relationships between people. The people at my corner grocery are looking out for the needs of me and my neighbors; we look out for them in return. That relationship is fundamentally different than the one between cow and meatpacker.

Re: GitHub Codespaces

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Post by evilduck »

suyash wrote: post #155
reggieband wrote: post #150

Microsoft is really the best at the slow strategic burn. * You host your project in github * You fund your project using github sponsors * You develop your project using github codespaces * You compile, test and deploy using github actions * You cloud host on azure Each individual feature is definitely great. I'm not trying to be critical of Microsoft trying to turn their investment in github into a profitable busine…

Yup all the free stuff is ultimately to lead us into using and paying for Azure. Need an open source alternative to GitHub.

Gitlab CE, Gitea, Gogs

Re: GitHub Codespaces

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Post by swagonomixxx »

skrtskrt wrote: post #91
swagonomixxx wrote: post #60

This is pretty epic. VS Code has proven itself to be one of the best (if not the best) and feature-complete editor out there. It's basically an IDE of a ton of languages at this point, and it's completely free. Integrating it with GH is a no-brainer move from Microsoft's standpoint, to increase market share even further with more seamless integration. If they're able to do setup for Python, Go, Ruby, and JavaScript p…

While VS Code is definitely good in general, and first choice for languages like JavaScript, I find it really hard to compare it to JetBrains PyCharm and GoLand (understanding GoLand has no free version). The debugging and refactoring experiences for Go and Python in VSCode feel slow, awkward to set up and configure and just generally tacked-on. I have gotten the PyCharm professional and GoLand licensed through my em…

I've been using VS Code's Go and Python plugins for development for the last 2 years and I've never had any major issues. In fact, my experience continues to get better after every release.

With the Go language server kicking off, Go development in VS Code is literally a breeze. Every single thing I'd want to do (format code, imports, run tests, run a particular test, debug a test, breakpoints, on and on) has been integrated into the VS Code plugin and it works pretty much seamlessly. I haven't used Goland since it's early release in 2016 or so, so I might be missing out on something, but it doesn't feel like it.

I've never had a good experience with PyCharm. Again might be because I've using earlier releases and things have gotten better. But I'm at a point where I'm too comfortable with VS Code and have customized it to a point where I don't think it's worth it for me to switch to another editor, especially one that is tied to a particular language.

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