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Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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Right click on a UI button and disable tabs on top + enable the menu bar. Firefox isn't Chrome -- it doesn't force you into its workflow or mode of thought.

>Firefox isn't Chrome -- it doesn't force you into its workflow or mode of thought. Yes, it does, it's just a different mode of thought. Chrome is far less configurable than Firefox, and has some features than drive me mad - like the position of a newly opened tab.

I don't think we're disagreeing :)

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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I'm used to Firefox 3.6 on Win7. There are a few reasons why it's my go-to browser when I'm using Windows: 1) Plug-ins like Firebug, web dev toolbar, greasemonkey, and resizeable textarea 2) Tabs are well-placed and readable, and you can simply double-click next to tabs to open a new tab 3) A proper status bar that's always visible 4) A full menu bar 5) No Adobe Flash built-in I've installed Firefox 4 RC. The colors…

The status bar can be turned on (and off) with Ctrl+/ (Ctrl+Slash). This takes care for the main issue for me.

The other issue I see is the the styling of the status bar, which seems incomplete. I added some additional styling to my userChrome.css and the bar now looks decent. (In Windows 7 with the Classic Windows theme.)

    #browser-bottombox {
        border-top-color:   #808080 !important;
        border-top-style:   solid !important;
        border-top-width:   1px !important;
        padding-right:      16px !important;
    }

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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post #68
post #55

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The nice thing about the separate search box is the corresponding list of available search engines.

Can you explain what's nice about that (compared to alternatives)?

1. I can drop-down the list of available search engines and see what's available, without having to remember any key-words to do the searches.

2. (and this is the killer feature for me) If a particular search engine is selected (say, IMDB), I can right-click on any word on a page, and one of the context menu options is "Search IMDB for ..."

Also, horizontal real-estate is not much of a concern on a wide-screen monitor - how much of the URL would I really want to see..?

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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That's funny, because one of the main reasons I've stuck to Firefox is its superior Vim emulation support (via Pentadactyl).

And Emacs has viper :)

Well, all the web browsers had Vim emulation, so Emacs was feeling left out ;)

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

#106
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Serious question here... I now use Chrome, my parents use Chrome, and almost everyone I know has converted. Most HN users seem to use it too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2105954 . Is there anything compelling in Firefox 4 to get excited about?

> Is there anything compelling in Firefox 4 to get excited about? Sure! Here are some things I personally find exciting about FF4. I'm not saying everyone should find them exciting, they are just my personal opinion: * FF4 is the only web browser to combine a tracing JIT with a method JIT for JavaScript. Some websites run amazingly fast with that. See the mozilla demos site for examples. * IE9 has great hardware acce…

Firefox is catching up Chrome's performance. And Chrome is catching up Firefox's features.

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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post #3

Serious question here... I now use Chrome, my parents use Chrome, and almost everyone I know has converted. Most HN users seem to use it too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2105954 . Is there anything compelling in Firefox 4 to get excited about?

By far my #1 reason: Tree Style Tabs.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

#108

One thing that FF3.x has had on chrome is total memory footprint. About a month ago, when I was testing FF4, I noticed that the memory usage for FF4 and Chrome were pretty close. I personally think Chrome consumes a bit too much memory for my liking, and I was disappointed to see FF4 following suit. Has anyone noticed if the new RC is more conservative with its memory consumption?

Keep two things in mind: virtual memory usage is not the same as physical memory usage; an application consuming more memory only matters if you can notice performance degradation elsewhere in your system.

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

#109

I'm used to Firefox 3.6 on Win7. There are a few reasons why it's my go-to browser when I'm using Windows: 1) Plug-ins like Firebug, web dev toolbar, greasemonkey, and resizeable textarea 2) Tabs are well-placed and readable, and you can simply double-click next to tabs to open a new tab 3) A proper status bar that's always visible 4) A full menu bar 5) No Adobe Flash built-in I've installed Firefox 4 RC. The colors…

I just tested on Mac and Windows 7 and even with tabs on top, double clicking in empty space next to tabs will open a new tab. If that doesn't work for you, I would recommend considering it a bug and filing it on bugzilla. It might be an incompatibility with an add-on or a preference setting, but there is no harm in reporting it.
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