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Re: Retrofuturism

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If you like Syd Mead check out Klaus Bürgle. To me he nails the Futurism genre like nobody else. Here[1] are some "Space" pictures starting as early as the late 1940s. 1.: http://klausbuergle.de/buergle_weltraum1.htm

HYPERLOOP! http://klausbuergle.de/images/buergle/750/Personenrohrpost_d... edit: Personenrohrpost How fitting.

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Although, it is obvious, you cannot be close to the reality if you trying to predict more than 10 years upfront, to be more or less realistic, you have to go back from the present back as many years as you want to go into future and observe what did not change. Then extrapolate to the future that has changed and what has not. Say in 10 years we'll still have AMD64 computers on our desks, albeit 50% faster, we'll stil…

We can't really imagine the distant future because we are very biased about the past and present. And we also can't account for developments that are entirely new. People always imagined the future full of flying cars because cars and planes were the big thing so the combination must also be big. But nobody really imagined "social networks" 100 years ago, which are way bigger now than flying cars. They had no indicat…

Science-fiction tend to underestimate social changes compared to technological changes. The classic example is Asimov where we have an intergalactic empire thousands of years in the future but with gender roles stuck in the 1950's. Videophones are everywhere in SF, but who predicted people would prefer text messaging with emojis?

Smartphones and climate change crisis was predicted many times, but who predicted transsexual rights would become a divisive political issue in the US?

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Not sure there’s a finer visual artist to produce in the medium of retrofuturism than Syd Mead - passed away late last year unfortunately but left an inspiring catalog and vision of the future that I imagine will endure a very long time -> https://www.iamag.co/the-art-of-syd-mead/

Simon Stålenhag does really great work that if not considered retro-futurism proper is something else that doesn't seem to have a name but certainly is at least in a space adjacent to retro-futurism. http://www.simonstalenhag.se/

This is great, thanks so much for linking this. Might have to buy a couple of prints.

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What then is the converse of retrofuturism where the present or future is represented with a mix of obsolete technologies along with contemporary and/or hypothetical future ones?

Probably Blade Runner or the Alien universe (which is the same universe, depending on who you ask).

They certainly share a common aesthetic. Same universe? No.

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People once envisioned a fantastical future, where energy was practically free, allowing endless possibilities for transport and construction.

What almost nobody predicted is that information would become practically free thanks to the internet....

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We can't really imagine the distant future because we are very biased about the past and present. And we also can't account for developments that are entirely new. People always imagined the future full of flying cars because cars and planes were the big thing so the combination must also be big. But nobody really imagined "social networks" 100 years ago, which are way bigger now than flying cars. They had no indicat…

Science-fiction tend to underestimate social changes compared to technological changes. The classic example is Asimov where we have an intergalactic empire thousands of years in the future but with gender roles stuck in the 1950's. Videophones are everywhere in SF, but who predicted people would prefer text messaging with emojis? Smartphones and climate change crisis was predicted many times, but who predicted transs…

SciFi creators are also bound by the fact that their creations must be commercial successes. Touching on sensitive social topics can get in the way of that and it's the best way to get a lynch mob at their door. So even if one could have predicted in the '30s anything related to race and gender-related emancipation they would have been buried along with their work. Fancy futuristic tech? Yes, please! Radical social reform ideas? Solid nope.

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The future was better in the past.

Mark Fisher (RIP) made a good point in this vein: our vision for the future is stuck in the '70s and '80s. If you watch a really old sci-fi movie like Forbidden Planet[0] (or listen to its rather incredible proto-industrial soundtrack[1]), you get the distinct feeling that it's "cheesy" or "wrong", that its vision of the future has fallen greatly out of sync with our own. This feeling diminishes as you go forward in time, and basically subsides entirely once you reach the eighties. Throbbing Gristle, Kraftwerk, Blade Runner, Akira... all "futuristic", even to modern eyes and ears. Is this due to improvements in visual effects and electronic instrumentation, or have we "given up" on the future in a very real sense?

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWQbnyHNY3k

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unSrf-htPbk

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