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I was tricked into thinking I had “grit”

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Re: I was tricked into thinking I had “grit”

#51
post #35

It is not important to work hard, it is important to be happy. Stop glorifying the act of working, please.

Do you think the two are causally related? (Either positively correlated or negatively correlated?)

Some people are lucky enough to find meaning in their work. That is a luxury. Many people need to work to live and will happily find meaning in other facets of their lives. But people shouldn’t believe that work is the only sort meaningful activity in life.

Re: I was tricked into thinking I had “grit”

#52
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

everyone else in your life will try to steal your earmarked time and complain that you never want to do anything Being able to say "No", and being willing to let people down because there are things you need to do that are more important than them, is a really important skill when you're running a startup. You can't succeed if you're giving up all your time to other people's things. You have to stop and tell them you…

You are dscribing a perfect way for an early burn-out and a lonely life. Relationships are one of the most important things in life, and I say this as a guy who could litteraly not talk to anyone for two weeks strait. It's relationships with people that get you your first customers for your start-up, your key employees. relationships keep you down to earth, friends and fmily. The latter being one of the most importan…

I didn't say that you should say no to everything. I said you should develop the ability to say no to things that you don't want to do because you have more important things to spend your time on. Trying to make everyone around you happy by giving up time you want to spend on important things is a much quicker route to burn out than declining some meetings you don't care about.

Re: I was tricked into thinking I had “grit”

#53
Every successful startup has a half dozen times it's on the verge of failure. Any reasonable person would say it's over. But those with grit refuse to give in and find a way.

But I've also known founders who repeatedly fail, constantly survive crises. They lose their house, get divorced and still soldier on refusing to give up.

Both entrepreneurs have grit, but only the first one is successful. Grit is vital to winning but it's not the only thing you need.

Re: I was tricked into thinking I had “grit”

#54

I dont get this article. Is he blaming the school for complimenting displayed characteristics? Does he think an element of character is a superpowered attribute that works everywhere like a videogame? Take the complement and move on, your character is not the same as fixed biological attributes or abilities. You weren't "tricked".

I think he's talking about his own evaluation of himself (based on what people told him) and how that caused him to deploy his own resources.

People who tell me I'm strong are complimenting me, but if I end up thinking I can carry a big ol' sofa up the stairs all by myself, I'm going to have a bad time :)

Re: I was tricked into thinking I had “grit”

#55
When I worked for a pensions company they sat me next to the CEO. He was a pleasant man most of the time, who could sometimes show a touch of arrogance towards his PA. I saw him mostly work at a slide deck all week and reading a book called Grit. Later I noticed he put a few sentences from the book into his deck. "We don't go home when we are tired, we go home when we are done" stuck in my head.

After a few years of my own struggles at being consistently productive my conclusion is grit is an emergent behaviour you cannot optimise for. You most probably want to use different words such as 'consistency' (this one works for me). I see grit as something opposite of health and balance. A short-term display of stamina that might trigger unwanted consequences in other areas of life.

Re: I was tricked into thinking I had “grit”

#56

I dont get this article. Is he blaming the school for complimenting displayed characteristics? Does he think an element of character is a superpowered attribute that works everywhere like a videogame? Take the complement and move on, your character is not the same as fixed biological attributes or abilities. You weren't "tricked".

I recently realized in the past I’ve had an inflated self-perception of myself specifically around work ethic and “grit.” But I conveniently ignored areas where I have failed to put in the work and push through. It may be okay to not have “grit.” I no longer believe I have any more or less grit than the average person. I’m not sure what this realization necessarily means nor do I fault anyone else for this. It just i…

I don't know what to say, it depends on what those "ignored areas" are. We have a primary goal and prioritize for it, not getting all the way on your second and third priorities isn't exactly uncommon.

Do you "have" grit or do you display it? It's part of character we choose how much energy to put in.

Re: I was tricked into thinking I had “grit”

#57
post #8

It is impossible to be really good at everything.... when I optimized for work, my fitness goals went through the window. When I optimized to get a project done, my reading (books) went down as well. When I optimized for fitness (working out and soccer), my work and side projects started progressing slower. It is very hard to work on your project at home, when you are in a intense bulking, or 'cutting' phase, and onc…

I've never thought of myself as being particularly "gritty" in anything; for me personally, mediocrity is good enough. I'm boring in that I get up and go to bed at reasonable times, in that I play video games for a couple hours at most, then I think I've had enough. I'm not trying to humblebrag, it's not something I do conscientiously, my main point here is that not excelling, not "doing your best" is also fine. In a…

This sort of "marathon" thinking isn't appreciated enough. You'll learn and do more with 10 hours/week of something for 10 years than 60 hours/week of something for 6 months. The latter severely underestimates the long term cognitive and sheer physical burden of intense effort.

Unless you are pursuing something that has an age or time factor (say, professional sports), I truly believe it's better to be a "marathon runner" than a "sprinter" when it comes to learning

Re: I was tricked into thinking I had “grit”

#58

Boxer (Animal Farm) had grit. Whenever things got tough, he'd say "I will work harder!" After his death, his saying became a mantra and model for other good citizens to follow.

I worked for a few companies whose mode of operation was exactly that.

This works so long as there's a steady supply of young, talented people but falls flat on its face when the company tries to scale up its business.

Re: I was tricked into thinking I had “grit”

#59
post #8

It is impossible to be really good at everything.... when I optimized for work, my fitness goals went through the window. When I optimized to get a project done, my reading (books) went down as well. When I optimized for fitness (working out and soccer), my work and side projects started progressing slower. It is very hard to work on your project at home, when you are in a intense bulking, or 'cutting' phase, and onc…

It's not impossible...but it requires strict time management and everyone else in your life will try to steal your earmarked time and complain that you never want to do anything. Even then, I agree - I'm constantly accidentally over prioritizing and having to even back out.

Optimize, prioritize, delegate, outsource. Not impossible at all. Learning to balance it takes time. But I assure people it can be done and I’m proof.

Re: I was tricked into thinking I had “grit”

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's almost entirely broscience. Being at a slight deficit won't hurt your soccer performance. You're not a top tier professional that needs to optimize for every tiny thing. Even if you are, Ronaldo is shredded and is a top 5 footballer. And most footballers are naturally very lean, so what you're saying doesn't even make empirical sense. Should you expect to play the Champion's League finals while preparing to do…

Pro body building is built around taking insane amounts of roids which will get you caught during drug testing in pro soccer.

But then there's the discipline/scene of natural bodybuilding, where no steroids are used.
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