Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

New 13-inch MacBook Pro

apple.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

991–1000 of 1001 posts

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

#991

Post by dreamcompiler »

mmorris wrote: post #904
dreamcompiler wrote: post #733

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "real" Escape key is essential. I'm using a new 16" MBP at work and it's quite nice, but without the real Escape key I'd probably be cursing the computer every day. I thought I'd hate the touchbar, but I actually thought it was cute -- for about an hour. Then I realized it was just a useless gimmick and reset it to "Expanded Control Strip" which is Apple's euphemism for "Make the touchbar look and act just like t…

> I did add the "Do Not Disturb" key to the touchbar; it's nice to have one-button access Not quite one button, but option- clicking the notifications icon at the far right of the menu bar will also enable do not disturb

Learned that after I installed the button on the touchbar but yeah, good point.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

#992

Post by grungydan »

MaintenanceMode wrote: post #632

Bringing back the escape key is such a admission of their original screw up. I'm glad they admitted it and reversed the design decision. But I'm still on a 2012 15" MacBook that's running strong. I normally would have updated but using my work 15" has been horrific between the dongles, the keyboard randomly dropping keys (last week "G" would not work, now it's back. The most infuriating thing about the touch bar, out…

I was initially waiting for this new 13", because I was finally needing a MacBook. I got tired of waiting and, as these things usually happened, bought an upgraded and battery-replaced 2015 13" MBP a week ago with 16GB of RAM and a 2TB SSD for a grand. Do you know what that RAM and storage space costs on the new 13" model? More than double that. I'm pretty okay with my decision.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

#993

Post by riversflow »

starbugs wrote: post #665

Sitting in front of my beloved 2013 MBP 15". Reading "the new inverted T-arrangement for arrow keys". Looking down at my keyboard. Seeing said inverted T-arrangement on my seven year old MBP. Deception and lies.

>Beloved 2013 MBP 15"

This is the exact relationship I have with mine. I love this thing. Reading how frustrated people are with their newer macs makes me kind of sad, because my late 2013 15" dGPU might be the best piece of hardware I've ever bought.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

#994

Post by manigandham »

grungydan wrote: post #992
MaintenanceMode wrote: post #632

Bringing back the escape key is such a admission of their original screw up. I'm glad they admitted it and reversed the design decision. But I'm still on a 2012 15" MacBook that's running strong. I normally would have updated but using my work 15" has been horrific between the dongles, the keyboard randomly dropping keys (last week "G" would not work, now it's back. The most infuriating thing about the touch bar, out…

I was initially waiting for this new 13", because I was finally needing a MacBook. I got tired of waiting and, as these things usually happened, bought an upgraded and battery-replaced 2015 13" MBP a week ago with 16GB of RAM and a 2TB SSD for a grand. Do you know what that RAM and storage space costs on the new 13" model? More than double that. I'm pretty okay with my decision.

The 2015 13' MBP's are still the best balance of form and function. You made a great choice.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

#995

Post by neuronic »

thethethethe wrote: post #565
neuronic wrote: post #506

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where it doesn't matter that the maxed out specs at which point you can call the machine "Pro" cost something like €3000? I'm sorry, but 8GB LPDDR3 and 256GB SSD with 2 USB-C ports and jet engine fans aren't really that "Pro".

You are moving the goalposts. So the high end version of the laptop is “pro” but the cheaper one isn’t? Doesn’t this follow for other similar ultra books? Why does a computer have to be cheap-ish to be “pro”?

Because it carries the "Pro" label. Why not just call it Macbook then? Why release what is essentially 2 products under one label, confusing consumers. It's predatory because Apple charges way too much for way too little when it comes to the Intel Gen8 models of the 2020 MBP.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

#997

Post by vaxman »

geophile wrote: post #415
alexggordon wrote: post #125

I was curious how the 13 inch was priced so I compared it to a new Dell XPS 13. Dell has a better processor (maybe, [2]) , but I couldn't find the option to upgrade the Dell to 4TB internal SSD, so I compared both with the 2 TB option. Ram is the same at 32GB. Dell came out to $2399[0] USD and Apple came out to $2999[1] USD. Dell Pros: * Row of function buttons (I've used BTT to customize my touch-bar to the point wh…

Apple has lost me as a customer for their computers. The software has been getting flakier for years, the butterfly fiasco, and their inexplicable decision to continue shipping laptops missing 15% of the keyboard. I'm on a System 76 Darter Pro now. Pop OS has been fantastic. Great specs for the money, and while it certainly isn't Mac-level hardware, it's fine. At this point, the Darter has a far superior keyboard, ev…

Has to be fanless and new SSD or HDD, or you are buying trouble just to avoid setting up Plex or something.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

#998

Post by dangus »

missosoup wrote: post #2

Is it just me or is Apple starting to fall woefully behind non-mac hardware competitors in both price and perf? I used to look forward to these announcements, now it's just 'we upgraded to a +1 generation config (still 1-2 generations behind what others are doing), that'll be 2000 bucks thanks'. Advertising 4 cores and 2018 Iris graphics as if it's some kind of achievement, when competitors have full dGpu solutions a…

The 10nm Intel Ice Lake CPUs found in the new 13-inch MacBook Pro are currently exclusive to Apple.

Re: New 13-inch MacBook Pro

#1000

Post by andy9775 »

treve wrote: post #552
andy9775 wrote: post #514

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A $600 price difference for this machine is probably worth it in my mind. Agreed. Recently bought the 16 inch MBP after considering Lenovo and Dell. Prices between the machines weren't that much different (Lenovo came to 7200 minus some discount to bring it down to MBP price). End of the day I didn't want to deal with Linux drivers (no M$ for me) and I wanted something that worked. Plus, the touchpad on an Apple de…

The XPS13 optionally comes with Ubuntu preinstalled. Haven't had to fight drivers in a while (on my second XPS 13).

ya, but limited hardware IIRC. Considered it.
Post reply on HN