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Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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post #55

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> If Mozilla wanted to copy Chrome/Safari's UI, they've succeeded They haven't succeeded because they still see the need for both a search box and an address box and the tabs don't close right under where the last close button was (my biggest gripes).

The nice thing about the separate search box is the corresponding list of available search engines.

Firefox keyword search is better and doesn't take up real estate.

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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I'm used to Firefox 3.6 on Win7. There are a few reasons why it's my go-to browser when I'm using Windows: 1) Plug-ins like Firebug, web dev toolbar, greasemonkey, and resizeable textarea 2) Tabs are well-placed and readable, and you can simply double-click next to tabs to open a new tab 3) A proper status bar that's always visible 4) A full menu bar 5) No Adobe Flash built-in I've installed Firefox 4 RC. The colors…

> If Mozilla wanted to copy Chrome/Safari's UI, they've succeeded They haven't succeeded because they still see the need for both a search box and an address box and the tabs don't close right under where the last close button was (my biggest gripes).

I remove the close buttons from tabs as they waste space. Use middle-click to close instead and there is no need to worry about their location. Ctrl-W works too.

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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post #41

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> If Mozilla wanted to copy Chrome/Safari's UI, they've succeeded They haven't succeeded because they still see the need for both a search box and an address box and the tabs don't close right under where the last close button was (my biggest gripes).

the tabs don't close right under where the last close button was It's not really a fix, but as a less-aggravating workaround, you can use ctl-w or ctl-F4 to close tabs. That way you don't have to reposition the mouse every time you want to close a tab. And I can hit ctl-w with my left hand, so I still don't have to take my right hand off the mouse to use the keyboard shortcut.

Don't forget middle-click tabs to close.

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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post #39

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Unlike Chrome's bookmark sync, Firefox Sync encrypts your data client-side for privacy and security Chrome 10 can encrypt everything client-side too.

Everything that gets synced -- bookmarks, preferences, etc. -- or just passwords? Do you have a source for that? I can only find evidence that passwords are encrypted client-side.

You can also see your Chrome bookmarks in your Google Docs interface - so not everything gets encrypted.

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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Since beta 10 or 11 FF4 has been really sluggish for me when opening new tabs, and at startup (aka opening lots of 'new' tabs). I don't know what changed, but it's enough to make me consider switching to Chrome. I don't want to, but RC1 is still sluggish to the point of being nearly unusable, given my browsing patterns.

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

#96
post #17

How long after the release candidates do they usually releases the final product? Does anyone know the history of their release periods?

It's been decreasing consistently over the last few releases. If we don't find any major flaws in the RC, we'll ship it as final in a week or two. If we do, you can add a few days to that estimate.

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Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

#97
post #24

I'm used to Firefox 3.6 on Win7. There are a few reasons why it's my go-to browser when I'm using Windows: 1) Plug-ins like Firebug, web dev toolbar, greasemonkey, and resizeable textarea 2) Tabs are well-placed and readable, and you can simply double-click next to tabs to open a new tab 3) A proper status bar that's always visible 4) A full menu bar 5) No Adobe Flash built-in I've installed Firefox 4 RC. The colors…

Right click on a UI button and disable tabs on top + enable the menu bar. Firefox isn't Chrome -- it doesn't force you into its workflow or mode of thought.

>Firefox isn't Chrome -- it doesn't force you into its workflow or mode of thought.

Yes, it does, it's just a different mode of thought. Chrome is far less configurable than Firefox, and has some features than drive me mad - like the position of a newly opened tab.

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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Serious question here... I now use Chrome, my parents use Chrome, and almost everyone I know has converted. Most HN users seem to use it too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2105954 . Is there anything compelling in Firefox 4 to get excited about?

Reasons I still use Firefox: * Password manager with a master password. * Different Awesome Bar behaviour (which some prefer to Chrome's) * Delicious extension (the Firefox one blows away the Chrome one)... although that doesn't seem to work in 4.0 yet. Until Chrome catches up to Firefox in features, I'm excited about a release of Firefox which catches up to Chrome in speed.

> * Password manager with a master password.

Chromium will use your native password manager if possible. For example on KDE it will use KWallet to store passwords.

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

#99
post #47

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I'm fine with proprietary tech, but Adobe Flash and Acrobat are unsafe, buggy and drive my CPU mad. After reading your comment, I have once again searched for a setting within Chrome to remove the built-in Flash, but I can't find it. That leaves Chromium and Iron.

I'm not sure that you can remove it, but you should be able to disable it through the about:plugins page. The long way around is through Options->Under the Hood->Plugin-ins->Disable individual plugins.

"Under the Hood" is replaced by "Under the Bonnet" for UK users, which to my mind shows remarkable attention to detail. (I wonder what else differs between en-gb and en-us...)

Re: Firefox 4 RC now available

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post #67

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Everything that gets synced -- bookmarks, preferences, etc. -- or just passwords? Do you have a source for that? I can only find evidence that passwords are encrypted client-side.

Hmm, good point. According to their documentation, "synced data is encrypted when it travels between your computer and Google’s servers" (this seems to refer to encryption in transit, i.e. SSL) and "As an added layer of protection, your saved passwords are encrypted on your computer and on Google’s servers using a cryptographic key. " http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&#38... That does seem to i…

You're right, only passwords are encrypted, as evidenced in Google Dashboard.
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