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Nazar: Analyzing malware that was uncovered in leaked NSA files

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Re: Nazar: Analyzing malware that was uncovered in leaked NSA files

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So if I want the USA out of my system, all I have to do is create some dummy exes, dlls and regkeys on my system?

Seems like it. In other viruses (and I'm sure the NSA does this too), your system might actually be scanned for other known viruses and removed. In the NSA's case, these could be enemy threat actors.

Re: Nazar: Analyzing malware that was uncovered in leaked NSA files

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So if I want the USA out of my system, all I have to do is create some dummy exes, dlls and regkeys on my system?

Seems like it. In other viruses (and I'm sure the NSA does this too), your system might actually be scanned for other known viruses and removed. In the NSA's case, these could be enemy threat actors.

It used to be standard operating practice as an attacker to close the holes through which you yourself gained access to prevent others from taking your prize.

Ironically the most secure and cheapest thing a company could do was get compromised by a competent attacker who only wanted to launder small amounts of data or CPU cycles through your network, and in exchange keeps your servers all patched and up to date for you to keep out other attackers.

Re: Nazar: Analyzing malware that was uncovered in leaked NSA files

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So if I want the USA out of my system, all I have to do is create some dummy exes, dlls and regkeys on my system?

No. Depending on the signature you trigger one of two things will likely happen:

If it is an allied partners tool, they will reach out to the other intelligence agency and deconflict. The other agency will confirm access and share with the US.

If it is a foreign toolkit (Iranian in this example), they have likely reverse engineered the tools and will piggy-back on them to access your system. Another option is 4th party collection where they use access to Iranian networks to siphon off the data the Iranians have collected on you.

If either of these turn out to be bogus, it will be treated as a false positive and they will reinfect your machine ignoring the warning.

Re: Nazar: Analyzing malware that was uncovered in leaked NSA files

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The cultural significance of the name is pretty ironic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazar_(amulet)

Researchers usually pick a name when they have started looking at a collection of samples, and don't really have knowledge of what is going on or who the threat actor is yet.

The authors call it خضر, a guardian angel type from the Quran that shares secret knowledge.

Re: Nazar: Analyzing malware that was uncovered in leaked NSA files

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So if I want the USA out of my system, all I have to do is create some dummy exes, dlls and regkeys on my system?

I wonder what kind of system you can create without having any specific country dependency at all.

Certainly the breakdown in influence for say your standard PC will be hard to avoid any USA input, no matter the OS due to code submissions/contributions and then that's presuming honest location actors. Let alone binary blobs for drivers.

So hardware and OS, you will be pushed to avoid any USA influence.

After all USB, Intel did that, clearly USA influence, as are many standards, so I dare say that unless you build your own CPU and everything, you will be having some USA influence upon your system, one way or another. Let alone many other countries.

Heck even all those 6502/Z80 systems - USA companies invented those, so not even the humble Sinclair ZX81 would still have USA in there.

Though I'm sure that Russia and China do have computers without any USA in them. But then, you start to see how that works.

Gets down to trust, which for some can be a choice of sandwiches they don't like but they need to eat. Most like the sandwiches, some like all three flavours and some make their own flavours, but using ingredients from all three. Some will bake their own bread and use the standard ingredients. Very few will make their own flour, bread, ingredients all by themselve. Coz they still use an over and knife made by somebody else. See, the efforts to exclude any potential influence is so deep that to completely remove them all is beyond the scope of many. So gets down to a balance, a trade off of trust.

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