A look at modern PHP

Post by mtnGoat » Tue, May 05, 2020, 7:13 PM UTC

tzs wrote: post #399

aceman22 wrote: post #369

Laravel is the best REST api framework in existence for any language. Change my mind.

How well are older releases of Laravel supported? I see on their website they are on version 7.x, and have documentation online there also for 6.x, 5.8, 5.7, 5.6, 5.5, 5.4, 5.3, 5.2, 5.1, 5.0, and 4.2. For those with a conservative server software approach who install a Linux distro that will have long term support and then stick with it up until near the end of that long term, and stick with the version of PHP that…

Post by jolux » Tue, May 05, 2020, 7:15 PM UTC

ragnese wrote: post #441

munk-a wrote: post #424

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As someone who's worked heavily in C++/Java and tends toward functional programming approaches I enjoy PHP. There are some features in the language you should avoid, variable-variables being one of the ones that makes logic very difficult to decipher - but C, C++ and Java all have those - and Javascript has the wonderful combination of substr & substring. The useful portions of PHP are extremely powerful, having acce…

Going a bit off-topic, but I can't imagine doing "functional" programming in PHP or Java. C++ has const and top-level functions (PHP kind of does, but the autoloader...). It has (real) generics. It has move semantics, which is great for functional pipelines.

Post by withinboredom » Tue, May 05, 2020, 7:17 PM UTC

JadoJodo wrote: post #458

ragnese wrote: post #262

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I'm a PHP "hater", so take this for what it's worth. You are very close to implying that the language doesn't matter if you can hire developers and there are a lot of good packages in the ecosystem. Having worked on several PHP projects (Most being version 7.0+ and zero of them being older than 5.3), the languages is STILL full of gotchas, and it's a huge drag on productivity. I assert that this DOES matter. Even bas…

RE: string -> int, I'm not able to replicate this. https://repl.it/@JadoJodo/SelfreliantEdibleUsers edit: Not trying to discount your feelings overall, but just curious about that specific example.

Post by mywittyname » Tue, May 05, 2020, 7:19 PM UTC

out_of_protocol wrote: post #398

mywittyname wrote: post #326

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You don't need to use switches. In fact, I'd argue that if blocks are better if you're evaluating against variable data types. Alternatively, if you really, really want to use a switch statement and loose typing might cause issues, it's pretty easy to compare types before the switch statement, e.g, if(gettype($a) !== "...") { return false; } switch($a) { ... }

Either choice doesn't really look like the sane language anymore

    case (string) 1:

Post by dzonga » Tue, May 05, 2020, 7:22 PM UTC

dgb23 wrote: post #202

s1k3s wrote: post #112

The amount of misinformation, false claims and unsupported statements in this thread is mindblowing for the quality that I've been used to see on HN. Here are some facts: - Symfony was the backend framework with the most contributors in 2019 [1] (yes, out of any backend framework written in any language) - PHP has more active contributors than it ever had [2] - Laravel is one of the most used frameworks in the world…

I really like languages like Rust and Go and they certainly are good languages and I would love to use either on a regular basis as a freelance webdev. But with two recent projects I‘ve worked on neither would be even feasible. In one there was a requirement to generate custom designed PDFs, and in the other I had to implement authentication via SAML. Other language ecosystems that would be feasible in these cases: N…